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Re: Firebase gets better analytics, crash reporting and more

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Firebase needs to get a C++ SDK for Unreal Engine 4 so I can put it to use in the FPS I'm working on. I would love to setup a master server browser list that updated in real time so that you can see by the moment the availability of servers and stats of current players in the server. I think Firebase would really make this electrifying! Right now the delay that Steam's master server browser list has is just so 1998.…

Hi, Stewart here from the Firebase team. We released a C++ API for the Realtime Database earlier today targeting iOS and Android, you can get started with it here https://firebase.google.com/docs/database/cpp/start Using the C++ API within Unreal (assuming you're targeting mobile) is a little tricky as we have dependencies upon Android resources (e.g AARs) that can be hard to integrate into Unreal's build system. You…

Thanks for the response Stewart! In my post I completely forgot to mention that the game is currently targeting PC.

Whats the outlook for a Firebase PC C++ SDK? (Right now I'd only be interested in the real time database.)

Given UE4's success I think the effort to support the platform would be worth it. The use cases I listed above are just the tip of the iceberg. Think about it? :P

Re: Firebase gets better analytics, crash reporting and more

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The free version of Google Analytics gets capped at a certain volume of traffic whereas Firebase doesn't. That's definitely one motivating factor to make the switch. I'll be interested to check it out when they get around to introducing Real-Time user stats to firebase. That's a pretty crucial component of analytics which I have open all the time. Google contacted me to switch to firebase from analytics. Seems like t…

Checkout the sneak peak of Firebase Analytics's StreamView. https://youtu.be/2sCjSz_svdY?t=1787

Also, it sounds like you may find the new DebugView feature interesting. https://youtu.be/2sCjSz_svdY?t=1346

Cheers, Stewart (Firebase team)

Re: Firebase gets better analytics, crash reporting and more

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This is great news. My last few web projects have all been based on Firebase because I focus on the front-end these days and I don't have to worry about scaling, databases, API endpoints and other nonsense which consumes a lot of my day. The pain of even getting a VPS deployed with support for Node.js, database and then figuring out some kind of redundancy to keep Node and my database running can also consume your day.

I used to favour Node.js for my REST API backend, but you can't beat the pricing for Firebase and generous free tier. One of the lesser known features is the cloud configuration service which gives you an SDK, it allows me to remotely turn settings on and off, syndicating them in realtime across all devices.

Oh, and the authentication functionality that Firebase offers with the painless SDK is absolutely fantastic. It's crazy easy to add Google/Facebook login functionality to my application and not worry about dealing with the pain of JSON Web Tokens, oAuth authentication and the other pain points of integrating social login. Implementing authentication used to be painful, fortunately services like Auth0 and Firebase are making it easier.

To those wondering who would use Firebase, I am a prime example. I am a front-end developer, but I come from a full-stack background. As I focus on the front-end, I've lost interest in configuring API's and backends, so Firebase handling this for me without needing to really do anything is a huge plus. I have no want, need or desire to ever touch a backend if I can avoid it.

For prototyping, you can't beat Firebase's cloud hosted database which utilises a JSON format to store data aka NoSQL without the scaling pain like MongoDB inflicted upon us. The rules engine that sits ontop of it allows you to configure it however you want, support for indexes and more.

Makes me happy to see that Google is doubling down on Firebase, it truly is a great product and I would be sad to see it discontinued.

Re: Firebase gets better analytics, crash reporting and more

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Excuse the tangent, but what problem does Firebase solve? I was updating my app and AdMob and they want me to use Firebase now. https://firebase.google.com/docs/admob/ios/quick-start I wanted to know why should I include it just to use AdMob so I checked the video on the page: https://youtu.be/9qCxo0D-Sak They promise to explain benefits for me but they only tell me how to use it. The docs also don't do it. It seems…

Similarly, Google is pushing developers toward Firebase as a replacement for their identity toolkit[1]. However, while reading the provided documentation and tutorials, it's not clear how anything is better than the old toolkit except that the tutorials now assume you'd like to use Firebase to store your user DB (which I have no interest in). I also have trouble discerning where the free ends and usage starts costing…

[Firebase Founder/PM]

The Firebase Auth product existed before Firebase joined Google. We've upgraded it significantly, pulling in lots from Identity Toolkit. While we're not at full parity yet, I'd love to hear what's missing for you. There are lots of net-new features we've added [1]

The cost is free for unlimited users (same as Identity Toolkit) [2]

I'm sorry to hear you've had a poor experience with our docs, feel free to respond here or get in touch (james@firebase.com) and let me know how we can improve.

[1] https://developers.google.com/identity/toolkit/migrate-fireb...

[2] https://firebase.google.com/pricing/

Re: Firebase gets better analytics, crash reporting and more

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I stopped looking at Firebase for a while since they seemed to have trouble with my multiple, simultaneous Google account logins. Pretty reasonable growing pains actually, and based on clicking around now, possibly fixed. No opinion on the current news, other than that it's nice to see continued signs of life.

If you use Firefox, that bug won't affect you. But yeah, huge pain, and was difficult to troubleshoot.

Re: Firebase gets better analytics, crash reporting and more

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I use firebase daily for my project. Love these new features in theory, but a little bummed haven't seen analytics or remote config make its way to the web SDK yet (all my projects are webapps).

Framing analytics as the 'heart of firebase' makes me a little worried about the future of firebase for web projects. Is firebase moving away from webapps?

Re: Firebase gets better analytics, crash reporting and more

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Good news & glad to see the continued investment in Firebase. It's quickly become the go-to BASS for our client's React apps; works great with Redux/Thunk.

Any update on the multi-domain hosting [0] issue?

[0] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/firebase-talk/fcpBcB...

Re: Firebase gets better analytics, crash reporting and more

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Good news & glad to see the continued investment in Firebase. It's quickly become the go-to BASS for our client's React apps; works great with Redux/Thunk. Any update on the multi-domain hosting [0] issue? [0] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/firebase-talk/fcpBcB...

A solution is under active development. We don't communicate timelines, but it's a high priority for the team.

Re: Firebase gets better analytics, crash reporting and more

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I am a super happy Firebase user from day zero. I've built many production-ready apps with it and will continue to do so. So far the only features missing that will make it perfect and a complete back-end solution are:

1. Server code (something like parse server code or AWS lambda) to run event triggers (eg: run more complex data validation or trigger a mail/sms after a ref is created/updated)

2. Full text search. When I need full text search on my apps I have to spin-up a server (normally nodejs) and build/keep a searchable index. Then I think: if I have to run/maintain this back-end piece I might as well build an API for my app and solve the lack of back-end code as well.

3. I am still not sold on React/Vue/Angular2 so the tried and tested Backbone framework is my weapon of choice. Sadly enough, there is no official library to implement Backbone-Firebase bindings so I find myself hacking patches.

Re: Firebase gets better analytics, crash reporting and more

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This is great news. My last few web projects have all been based on Firebase because I focus on the front-end these days and I don't have to worry about scaling, databases, API endpoints and other nonsense which consumes a lot of my day. The pain of even getting a VPS deployed with support for Node.js, database and then figuring out some kind of redundancy to keep Node and my database running can also consume your da…

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