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Re: The disturbing Facebook scandal we're all ignoring

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Post by jessaustin »

jondubois wrote: post #8
an_account wrote: post #4

It's on the person running the ad to not break laws or operate in discriminatory ways, not Facebook. There are tons of metrics that correlate heavily with race, combinations of which that can be used in place of this metric. Facebook shouldn't be at fault when an advertiser abuses them. If a landlord took online rental applications, the company providing the technology for the applications wouldn't be at fault if the…

I think that it's a really dangerous trend; now we have all these platforms which facilitate illegal activity but which offload all the legal responsibility onto their users. You could say the same thing about Pirate Bay, Silk Road, Uber (for helping its drivers bypass local license requirements), AirBnb (for helping landlords bypass local tenancy laws). All these companies help people break the law... The ones which…

Our society is evolving in such a way that our laws are slowly degrading...

This may be an inevitable response to the ongoing proliferation of unnecessary laws?

Re: The disturbing Facebook scandal we're all ignoring

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Post by xkcd-sucks »

1024core wrote: post #6
an_account wrote: post #4

It's on the person running the ad to not break laws or operate in discriminatory ways, not Facebook. There are tons of metrics that correlate heavily with race, combinations of which that can be used in place of this metric. Facebook shouldn't be at fault when an advertiser abuses them. If a landlord took online rental applications, the company providing the technology for the applications wouldn't be at fault if the…

You know, I'm sick and tired of all these "Web 2.0" companies shirking their responsibilities. Uber doesn't "offer rides", it's just a "marketplace". AirBnB doesn't offer short-term rentals, it's just a "marketplace". Face it: Facebook offers the option to exclude people based on race. This is wrong. Period. Race is one of the protected categories, and you cannot discriminate (or give preferential treatment to) based…

Does this extend to all ad targeting in general? For example, targeted advertiseing for tampons, African hair products, Spanish language stuff etc.

Re: The disturbing Facebook scandal we're all ignoring

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Post by xkcd-sucks »

jessaustin wrote: post #11
jondubois wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that it's a really dangerous trend; now we have all these platforms which facilitate illegal activity but which offload all the legal responsibility onto their users. You could say the same thing about Pirate Bay, Silk Road, Uber (for helping its drivers bypass local license requirements), AirBnb (for helping landlords bypass local tenancy laws). All these companies help people break the law... The ones which…

Our society is evolving in such a way that our laws are slowly degrading... This may be an inevitable response to the ongoing proliferation of unnecessary laws?

Maybe one could raise VC money at a ridiculous valuation to distribute cocaine using the airbnb/uber model...

Re: The disturbing Facebook scandal we're all ignoring

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Post by basch »

jondubois wrote: post #8
an_account wrote: post #4

It's on the person running the ad to not break laws or operate in discriminatory ways, not Facebook. There are tons of metrics that correlate heavily with race, combinations of which that can be used in place of this metric. Facebook shouldn't be at fault when an advertiser abuses them. If a landlord took online rental applications, the company providing the technology for the applications wouldn't be at fault if the…

I think that it's a really dangerous trend; now we have all these platforms which facilitate illegal activity but which offload all the legal responsibility onto their users. You could say the same thing about Pirate Bay, Silk Road, Uber (for helping its drivers bypass local license requirements), AirBnb (for helping landlords bypass local tenancy laws). All these companies help people break the law... The ones which…

Dont forget Comcast, ATT, Verizon, Youtube etc

Any ISP or Hosting Company that lets you do something illegal should be punished.

Re: The disturbing Facebook scandal we're all ignoring

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Post by jondubois »

jessaustin wrote: post #11
jondubois wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that it's a really dangerous trend; now we have all these platforms which facilitate illegal activity but which offload all the legal responsibility onto their users. You could say the same thing about Pirate Bay, Silk Road, Uber (for helping its drivers bypass local license requirements), AirBnb (for helping landlords bypass local tenancy laws). All these companies help people break the law... The ones which…

Our society is evolving in such a way that our laws are slowly degrading... This may be an inevitable response to the ongoing proliferation of unnecessary laws?

Yes probably in some cases - But I think a lot of 'socialist' laws could also be a target.

For example, it will be interesting to see how AirBnb will affect house prices in countries which are currently deemed 'tenant-friendly' (as opposed to 'landlord-friendly') - Those countries have laws designed to make property investment unsavoury for landlords and this has kept house prices down so far, but with the flexibility of renting out through AirBnb, housing might become an attractive investment option in those countries.

Re: The disturbing Facebook scandal we're all ignoring

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Post by forgottenpass »

jessaustin wrote: post #11
jondubois wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that it's a really dangerous trend; now we have all these platforms which facilitate illegal activity but which offload all the legal responsibility onto their users. You could say the same thing about Pirate Bay, Silk Road, Uber (for helping its drivers bypass local license requirements), AirBnb (for helping landlords bypass local tenancy laws). All these companies help people break the law... The ones which…

Our society is evolving in such a way that our laws are slowly degrading... This may be an inevitable response to the ongoing proliferation of unnecessary laws?

This may be an inevitable response to the ongoing proliferation of unnecessary laws?

It's wishful thinking to expect the degradation of a law be inversely correlated to is value to society (however you want to calculate that, "necessity" or otherwise).

Re: The disturbing Facebook scandal we're all ignoring

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Post by jessaustin »

forgottenpass wrote: post #17
jessaustin wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our society is evolving in such a way that our laws are slowly degrading... This may be an inevitable response to the ongoing proliferation of unnecessary laws?

This may be an inevitable response to the ongoing proliferation of unnecessary laws? It's wishful thinking to expect the degradation of a law be inversely correlated to is value to society (however you want to calculate that, "necessity" or otherwise).

We weren't really talking about individual laws. It is the institution of Law in general that has been degraded, and that is partly due to all the extra laws. Each new law makes someone's life better, or else it wouldn't have been lobbied into existence, but on average each new law makes life worse for the public as a whole. The public knows this at some level, so it's understandable that the average person now has less respect for the Law than the average person did in e.g. 1950.
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