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FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by bcrescimanno »

koolba wrote: post #6
tylerwhipple wrote: post #2

What happens if they find her guilty after she is elected?

> What happens if they find her guilty after she is elected? If it's before she takes office, Obama could pardon her. Would be a smear on the end of his legacy but might a Nixon/Ford style situation to take the personal hit and move the country forward. If it's after she takes office, most likely impeachment or resignation. It'd be very difficult govern as the chief executive if the country and world sees you as a co…

She cannot be "convicted" of anything so long as she's in office. She would have to be impeached and removed from office (or resign) before she could actually stand trial for whatever crime may have been committed.

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by phd514 »

koolba wrote: post #6
tylerwhipple wrote: post #2

What happens if they find her guilty after she is elected?

> What happens if they find her guilty after she is elected? If it's before she takes office, Obama could pardon her. Would be a smear on the end of his legacy but might a Nixon/Ford style situation to take the personal hit and move the country forward. If it's after she takes office, most likely impeachment or resignation. It'd be very difficult govern as the chief executive if the country and world sees you as a co…

Obama pardoning Hillary would be very different than Ford's pardon of Nixon. The latter allowed a disgraced politician who had resigned to leave Washington without facing criminal prosecution. The former would allow a politician to avoid prosecution and continue to take the office of President.

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Post by eli »

mzw_mzw wrote: post #7

That was a very strange article with all the near-wishful "igniting speculation about a Clinton defeat" stuff. The whole emails issue has been inside baseball, politics-wise. Insiders and pundits love yelling about it but average voters either don't care (the vast majority) or have already assumed she's guilty/not guilty and priced that into their vote. Reopening the investigation is not going to change the election…

I've heard many people cite emails as the main reason they are not voting for her. I assume most of them actually would never have voted for her anyway, but it's a real issue.

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by saintwind »

phd514 wrote: post #12
koolba wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What happens if they find her guilty after she is elected? If it's before she takes office, Obama could pardon her. Would be a smear on the end of his legacy but might a Nixon/Ford style situation to take the personal hit and move the country forward. If it's after she takes office, most likely impeachment or resignation. It'd be very difficult govern as the chief executive if the country and world sees you as a co…

Obama pardoning Hillary would be very different than Ford's pardon of Nixon. The latter allowed a disgraced politician who had resigned to leave Washington without facing criminal prosecution. The former would allow a politician to avoid prosecution and continue to take the office of President.

But Clinton is a disgraced politician, look at her direct involvement in Syria as Sec of State.

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by MattSteelblade »

Alex3917 wrote: post #10

The real question is whether this is because of the KimDotCom tweet, or whether it's related to something in the Podesta emails or otherwise.

KimDotCom tweet for reference https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/791364506425315328

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by insickness »

mzw_mzw wrote: post #7

That was a very strange article with all the near-wishful "igniting speculation about a Clinton defeat" stuff. The whole emails issue has been inside baseball, politics-wise. Insiders and pundits love yelling about it but average voters either don't care (the vast majority) or have already assumed she's guilty/not guilty and priced that into their vote. Reopening the investigation is not going to change the election…

> average voters either don't care

What were you saying about 'wishful thinking?' A presidential candidate under FBI investigation on election day is huge.

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Post by samfisher83 »

bcrescimanno wrote: post #11
koolba wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What happens if they find her guilty after she is elected? If it's before she takes office, Obama could pardon her. Would be a smear on the end of his legacy but might a Nixon/Ford style situation to take the personal hit and move the country forward. If it's after she takes office, most likely impeachment or resignation. It'd be very difficult govern as the chief executive if the country and world sees you as a co…

She cannot be "convicted" of anything so long as she's in office. She would have to be impeached and removed from office (or resign) before she could actually stand trial for whatever crime may have been committed.

If the democrats get the senate as predicted then she won't be impeached.

Re: FBI Reopens Clinton E-Mail Probe Less Than Two Weeks Before Vote

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Post by Kenji »

mzw_mzw wrote: post #7

That was a very strange article with all the near-wishful "igniting speculation about a Clinton defeat" stuff. The whole emails issue has been inside baseball, politics-wise. Insiders and pundits love yelling about it but average voters either don't care (the vast majority) or have already assumed she's guilty/not guilty and priced that into their vote. Reopening the investigation is not going to change the election…

The e-mails should have put her in prison, and they would have put anyone else in the same situation in prison. But you're right, with her being her, they're a complete nonissue. They simply don't matter at all.

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Post by pwg »

danvoell wrote: post #9

"In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails" - Sounds very happenstance. What are the odds something coincidental happened two weeks before the election?

What is the probability that "an unrelated case" is political speak for "wikileaks"?
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