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Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by basch » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:03 PM UTC

malux85 wrote: post #3

Can anybody recommend a good laptop to replace my current macbook - I would like 17inch screen, and runs Ubuntu ... bonus for NVidia GPU - I deep learn in the cloud but having a GPU to test on would be great. Anybody know of this mythical unicorn?

Thinkpad P70 http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/p-series/p70/?...

Precision 17 7000 Series (7710) http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/precision-m7710-workstatio...

ZBook 17 ? http://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations/zbook-17.html

take note that these all have Quadro cards, not their lower end GForce cards.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by beaner » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:03 PM UTC

I think there are a lot of legit complaints about the new announcements and lack of improvements, but this post seems pretty weak. Fn keys aren't really gone, they're just present in another form (the touch bar). The other complaint is just about ports. It's not so hard to have a dongle that has these ports, and just plugs into the new one. Sure, a little annoying, but it doesn't exactly kill your workflow.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by neals » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:03 PM UTC

malux85 wrote: post #3

Can anybody recommend a good laptop to replace my current macbook - I would like 17inch screen, and runs Ubuntu ... bonus for NVidia GPU - I deep learn in the cloud but having a GPU to test on would be great. Anybody know of this mythical unicorn?

Typing this from my maxxed-out surface pro 4, in tablet mode, while I do sketching on the couch, after having done some pretty intense Visual Studio Typescript debugging. I would recommand this to anybody. <3

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by striking » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:04 PM UTC

malux85 wrote: post #3

Can anybody recommend a good laptop to replace my current macbook - I would like 17inch screen, and runs Ubuntu ... bonus for NVidia GPU - I deep learn in the cloud but having a GPU to test on would be great. Anybody know of this mythical unicorn?

Here you go, pal! http://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-17x-series

17in 4K IPS display, desktop-equivalent GTX 980.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by pavlov » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:04 PM UTC

0x0 wrote: post #2

A maxxed out MBP costs €5000, which is $5447.95. And you can't connect your iphone, your iphone headset, hdmi, magsafe, sd-card or usb. And you don't get tactile escape keys or function keys. Or Nvidia. Or even an OpenGL implementation from this decade! This show is over :(

Apple sells a USB-C to Lightning cable, so you don't need a dongle to connect an iPhone.

The rest of your points stand though.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by tekklloneer » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:04 PM UTC

ch4s3 wrote: post #6

I'm pretty ambivalent about everything but the usb ports. I get they its an overloaded standard and probably needs a replacement, but its a lot to give up in the name of progress...

The hard fact is that there's still a LOT of usb devices out there. Even one USB port would greatly alleviate the pain.

If they don't include a usbc->usb+hdmi adapter in the box, it's going to be extremely painful for users with workstations who find out that their peripherals don't work.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by verandaguy » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:04 PM UTC

striking wrote: post #9

> function keys, MagSafe, HDMI, SD Card AND the Escape key I'm an HDMI guy too, SD cards are great, and MagSafe has saved my bacon more than once. But the function keys are being transformed into something a bit more interactive and app-specific, and if you need Escape in a terminal emulator, Ctrl-] has been around just about forever. I think Apple's doing something new and interesting with function keys. (But I agre…

While it's nice that Unix systems have an alternative (^]), many people don't know about that, and you'd probably be hard pressed to find anyone who prefers it over just .

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by maxerickson » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:05 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #15

0x0 wrote: post #2

A maxxed out MBP costs €5000, which is $5447.95. And you can't connect your iphone, your iphone headset, hdmi, magsafe, sd-card or usb. And you don't get tactile escape keys or function keys. Or Nvidia. Or even an OpenGL implementation from this decade! This show is over :(

Apple sells a USB-C to Lightning cable, so you don't need a dongle to connect an iPhone. The rest of your points stand though.

A cable of rather limited uses is the moral equivalent of a dongle.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by 0x0 » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:05 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #15

0x0 wrote: post #2

A maxxed out MBP costs €5000, which is $5447.95. And you can't connect your iphone, your iphone headset, hdmi, magsafe, sd-card or usb. And you don't get tactile escape keys or function keys. Or Nvidia. Or even an OpenGL implementation from this decade! This show is over :(

Apple sells a USB-C to Lightning cable, so you don't need a dongle to connect an iPhone. The rest of your points stand though.

For €5000 you can't connect your state-of-the-art iPhone to your state-of-the-art Mac out of the box. You have to pay extra, and you have to carry around an awkward dongle adapter and hope you don't forget it! Fucking lol.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by masklinn » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 8:05 PM UTC

beaner wrote: post #12

I think there are a lot of legit complaints about the new announcements and lack of improvements, but this post seems pretty weak. Fn keys aren't really gone, they're just present in another form (the touch bar). The other complaint is just about ports. It's not so hard to have a dongle that has these ports, and just plugs into the new one. Sure, a little annoying, but it doesn't exactly kill your workflow.

> The other complaint is just about ports. It's not so hard to have a dongle that has these ports

And the keikaku[0] is quite obviously to provide incentive for accessory manufacturers to build type-c native stuff, and eventually have an all-type-c ecosystem and little to no need for "dongles" (which incidentally should mostly be basic cables)

[0] keikaku means plan