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> Apple won the smartphone wars a long time ago. This claim is made, but it's not very specific. In what way did Apple win the smartphone wars ?

Profit and PR.

When people think about buying a phone, it's always between an iPhone and something else. Something else is the entire rest of the world, iPhone being the reference for the consumer.

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> Apple won the smartphone wars a long time ago. This claim is made, but it's not very specific. In what way did Apple win the smartphone wars ?

I think the author only brings that claim to make a point. Which is, Apple put companies like Blackberry (RIM), Nokia, and Motorola on life-support several years ago after the introduction of the iPhone.

Fast forward to now, market share of the iPhone is in decline worldwide due to the proliferation of the multiple brands offering Android OS on their "Smart" handsets. [1] The author is merely painting a portrait of things to come.

[1] http://www.macrumors.com/2016/04/27/iphone-15-percent-market...

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> Apple won the smartphone wars a long time ago. This claim is made, but it's not very specific. In what way did Apple win the smartphone wars ?

I was highly surprised by that assertion too. If you take market share as a determiner, Google has basically crushed Apple: https://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp

Hm. I'm not really sure that's a good way of looking at it. I think comparing manufacturers is a more apt comparison. How does Apple compare to Samsung to HTC to (now) Google?

but even if you want to look at the market share by operating system, I think you should then look at revenue. Seems like Apple makes a lot more money from it's market share compared to Google.

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> Apple won the smartphone wars a long time ago.

This is a bold statement. On what measure? Last that I've seen is that almost 87% of the smartphone market is dominated by Android.

It might be true for app monetization, but definitely not as a whole.

Good read though.

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The article mentions why Apple is the best: unbeatable hardware. It's that simple really...

If it's just a hardware competition then Apple doesn't "crush" anyone in this regard. Apple's (formidable) strength is the intergration of their software with the hardware. Android can't compete with that aspect (yet).

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"Apple has always missed the cue on one critical piece: access to customer data. And that is what Google has always been successful at."

This is where it ends with Google and I, enough is enough.

I have to be honest the direction Google is heading in lately feels like dangerous territory, either people are going to like the invasive approach or be scared off by it, time will tell. I get the feeling people care less about search these days, Facebook etc is the Internet for a lot of people and Adblockers have to be doing some damage.

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> Apple won the smartphone wars a long time ago. This is a bold statement. On what measure? Last that I've seen is that almost 87% of the smartphone market is dominated by Android. It might be true for app monetization, but definitely not as a whole. Good read though.

> Last that I've seen is that almost 87% of the smartphone market is dominated by Android.

How much money does the iPhone versus the Android phones make?

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A couple nitpicks: - Virtual Reality - still hasn't demonstrated mainstream appeal. I'm pretty bearish on it being the next 3d TV's - Resolution - Does anything north of 300dpi really matter at this point? Maybe for VR, but see above - Privacy - as data breaches become the norm, where/how do you want your data stored?

> I'm pretty bearish on it being the next 3d TV's I'm actually pretty bullish on that, considering 3D TVs fizzled out pretty quickly. Edit because I think I wasn't clear: I think setting the bar for VR as what 3D TVs accomplished is very pessimistic. VR seems vastly more promising, both moreso than 3D TVs did at their peak, and also on their own right as a very interesting and wide open medium.

I'm inclined to agree, simply because everyone I've seen review this recent iteration of VR has great things to say about it. I don't recall hearing many positive things about 3D.

Re: Google vs. Apple – The Smartphone Race Is Over, and a New One Begins…

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> Apple won the smartphone wars a long time ago. This claim is made, but it's not very specific. In what way did Apple win the smartphone wars ?

I think apple has actually lost the "smartphone war".

Android market share is somewhere around 85%, ios under 15%.

It doesn't matter who manufactures the hardware if you control the software and this is true especially if profit from the phone hardware manufactured by you is not really that important part of your profit stream.

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