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Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by papa_bear » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 2:07 PM UTC

in_the_sticks wrote: post #5

wh0rth wrote: post #2

I've been wondering when the bezel would disappear for good. I don't doubt that it adds the the appeal of the phone, but I also wonder if it has any downsides from a usability standpoint.

I've got a Sharp Aquos Crystal. If I use it without a case, it will frequently register touch events on the edges of the screen just from holding it. There's no way to hold it that will prevent this.

I have the same issue with my galaxy s7 edge. It's incredibly frustrating to use without a case.

Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by JoelBennett » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 2:08 PM UTC

kbody wrote: post #9

neals wrote: post #4

Without the bezels, all our phones will look the same. We'll be holding a slab of pixels with some OS, with some voice-activated assistent, with some apps. More or less the same. Even more so than now.

Personally, I'm more function over form so and I can't imagine having a bezel-less phone that won't be a nightmare to use (using one hand).

That's what I wonder about as well. I suppose with some smarts, it might be possible to ignore touches along the edge when it is held a certain way, but why unnecessarily complicate things? Even a 4 mm bezel would be fine.

Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by Illniyar » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 2:09 PM UTC

curiousgal wrote: post #10

The problem with most chinese brands (Xiaomi, Mijue, etc.) is the non-existing software updates.

My hauwei got android 6 a few months ago. Definitely a long wait, but they update regularly as far as I know.

Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by ewheeler » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 2:11 PM UTC

curiousgal wrote: post #10

The problem with most chinese brands (Xiaomi, Mijue, etc.) is the non-existing software updates.

I have the Xiaomi Mi4C, which gets an OTA update every week. Most changes are cosmetic, but typically includes substantive android security updates at least monthly.

Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by vayan » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 2:11 PM UTC

curiousgal wrote: post #10

The problem with most chinese brands (Xiaomi, Mijue, etc.) is the non-existing software updates.

Not the case for Xiaomi... weekly updates

Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by inlineint » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 2:13 PM UTC

kbody wrote: post #9

neals wrote: post #4

Without the bezels, all our phones will look the same. We'll be holding a slab of pixels with some OS, with some voice-activated assistent, with some apps. More or less the same. Even more so than now.

Personally, I'm more function over form so and I can't imagine having a bezel-less phone that won't be a nightmare to use (using one hand).

I think machine learning can be employed to filter out accidental touches from the meaningful ones. It is already done in iPad Pro that allows to use Apple Pencil while holding your hand on the screen, and still detects meaningful touches.

Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by yoz-y » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 2:13 PM UTC

kbody wrote: post #9

neals wrote: post #4

Without the bezels, all our phones will look the same. We'll be holding a slab of pixels with some OS, with some voice-activated assistent, with some apps. More or less the same. Even more so than now.

Personally, I'm more function over form so and I can't imagine having a bezel-less phone that won't be a nightmare to use (using one hand).

One way to do so is to make the UI in a way that it does not have anything actionable on the bezels. Kind of a "virtual" bezel.

Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by serg_chernata » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 2:14 PM UTC

kbody wrote: post #9

neals wrote: post #4

Without the bezels, all our phones will look the same. We'll be holding a slab of pixels with some OS, with some voice-activated assistent, with some apps. More or less the same. Even more so than now.

Personally, I'm more function over form so and I can't imagine having a bezel-less phone that won't be a nightmare to use (using one hand).

I'm not a fan either but Galaxy S Edge is quite popular and I think it has sides that are far more prone to unintended interactions. Yet, I never hear of anyone having that issue.

Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by matsimitsu » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 2:14 PM UTC

curiousgal wrote: post #10

The problem with most chinese brands (Xiaomi, Mijue, etc.) is the non-existing software updates.

My 1.5 year old Xiaomi Mi4i still gets weekly updates and has been since the launch, so that's not true.

[edit] It also still holds a 2-day charge after all this time and for it's price (180 euro's) it has been my best phone purchase in years.

Re: Xiaomi unveils concept phone with near bezel-less display

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Post by mhurron » Tue, Oct 25, 2016, 2:16 PM UTC

kbody wrote: post #9

neals wrote: post #4

Without the bezels, all our phones will look the same. We'll be holding a slab of pixels with some OS, with some voice-activated assistent, with some apps. More or less the same. Even more so than now.

Personally, I'm more function over form so and I can't imagine having a bezel-less phone that won't be a nightmare to use (using one hand).

First thing I do with any phone is put it in a case. Bezel-less is irrelevant to me, I'm going to put one in place.

'Thinnest phone ever' is similarly meaningless to me for the same reasons. I don't want a phone that feels like I'm going to snap it in half simply by using it.