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Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by notatoad »

anondon wrote: post #7

How exactly does publishing a list of malware-infected stores fall under the DMCA? I always thought DMCA was meant to be for copyright infringement cases. I didn't see the list, but did it by any chance contain the logos of the online stores? If it did, the DMCA notices make sense.

it falls under the DMCA because the DMCA mandates a takedown-first and check the validity later workflow. To be in compliance, a site must respond to any DMCA takedown notice as quickly as reasonably possible, regardless of how fraudulent it might be.

As long as you're okay being found guilty of perjury by a US court, or have no plans to enter a US jurisdiction in the near future, you can get any content you want taken down from any site that's required to follow the DMCA.

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by ldayley »

anondon wrote: post #7

How exactly does publishing a list of malware-infected stores fall under the DMCA? I always thought DMCA was meant to be for copyright infringement cases. I didn't see the list, but did it by any chance contain the logos of the online stores? If it did, the DMCA notices make sense.

The claims probably have little to do with DMCA violations themselves, but it has become an easy way to get content removed quickly from sites without very much review from the host service.

The claims are probably from the malware perpetrators as a way to censor discussion and keep the gravy train rolling. It's possible also that the embarrassed commerce sites would file a DMCA claim to keep the public in the dark about how insecure their sites are/were.

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by r3bl »

Isn't it the whole point of GitLab that it's decentralized? As in, you can roll your own instance and stop worrying about censorship?

I'm pretty sure someone here has a GitLab instance that is willing to share for this purpose.

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by cyanbane »

To be fair, maybe some automated method that hub/lab owners have not vetted the data overall. I hope your list stays up/public personally as long as you are willing to take responsibility for its upkeep. I wish there was some format to submit this list (and your responsibility for keeping up with it) to vendors on the lookout for this kinda stuff (up to them to decide inclusion).

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by bitJericho »

notatoad wrote: post #11
anondon wrote: post #7

How exactly does publishing a list of malware-infected stores fall under the DMCA? I always thought DMCA was meant to be for copyright infringement cases. I didn't see the list, but did it by any chance contain the logos of the online stores? If it did, the DMCA notices make sense.

it falls under the DMCA because the DMCA mandates a takedown-first and check the validity later workflow. To be in compliance, a site must respond to any DMCA takedown notice as quickly as reasonably possible, regardless of how fraudulent it might be. As long as you're okay being found guilty of perjury by a US court, or have no plans to enter a US jurisdiction in the near future, you can get any content you want tak…

Good luck being rich and getting prosecuted with that.

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by x1798DE »

vSanjo wrote: post #5
x1798DE wrote: post #3

Article doesn't say that gitlab censored the list, though the gitlab link is a 404. Also, are they actually using DMCA to get these lists taken down? If so, isn't there some penalty for filing a false DMCA?

The first comment mentions it was taken down about an hour ago.

Hmm. I didn't (still don't) see any comments. Maybe it's a mobile thing.

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by pmontra »

r3bl wrote: post #13

Isn't it the whole point of GitLab that it's decentralized? As in, you can roll your own instance and stop worrying about censorship? I'm pretty sure someone here has a GitLab instance that is willing to share for this purpose.

And get DDoSed by the malware guys who don't want their victims know they are in the list and fix their site. It would be an altruistic offer but I would think twice about it.

However it's a problem and we need a solution.

A torrent? Yes but Google won't index it.

A file on S3 wouldn't work because they could just download it as many times as needed to make the bill skyrocket. Better than a DCMA.

Anything that is unaffected by DDoS, costs no money, can be indexed?

Edit. One more requirement: not easy censorship.

Re: GitHub censored my research data

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Post by gruez »

x1798DE wrote: post #3

Article doesn't say that gitlab censored the list, though the gitlab link is a 404. Also, are they actually using DMCA to get these lists taken down? If so, isn't there some penalty for filing a false DMCA?

>If so, isn't there some penalty for filing a false DMCA?

Only if you get caught, which I don't think will be the case if they did anything to cover up their tracks

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