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Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by rplnt »

rspeer wrote: post #8

This title's grammar is mangled and confusing on HN. The $160000 was for the developer, not for anyone else. The "for those who use Facebook ads" was a separate clause saying who the post is for. I know HN approves of original titles but also disapproves of sensationalism and exclamation points. I would suggest something like: App developer says: "Facebook stole my $160000"

And they didn't steal it either. They just didn't pay it out yet, it says pending. And even if it was canceled or whatever, "steal" is not the right word since they were never his money to begin with.

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by DanielBMarkham »

After that I appealed to them many times but never got the answer.

I must be missing something somewhere. This story doesn't sound right to me, but I don't know the systems involved.

Can somebody tell me how over 100K can be at stake and this guy can't even get a real person to talk to? Ok, I understand the old "push popular stuff on the web and let the robots handle support" routine. But 160K? Really?

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by has2k1 »

vonklaus wrote: post #7

This happened to someone using stripe; a similar case where the account was suspended and the user was upset about the inability to capture revenue. I trust stripe a lot more than FB, that said, PC showed up in the thread as well as numerous suppory staff. The claim was similar, big money rev processing suspended but limited details. It turned out that the user was violating the terms and had been notified well in ad…

When you are getting the types of numbers mentioned by the app creator and you mention the name of the app, you invite unoriginal competition and Denial-of-Service attacks if possible.

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by QuantumRoar »

anondon wrote: post #3

Can anyone backup those revenue numbers from past experience? Curiously, the application name was not posted. I don't want to call bullsh*t, but if the claims could be verified, the discussion can move on to how to actually deal with the situation. I believe there are Facebook employees on HN, would it be possible to bring this matter to the attention of the concerned people, if the claims turn out to be valid?

And not just bring attention to this case but to make sure that there is actually some support.

I can't believe how Facebook can have business relations with someone on the order of magnitude of $100k a month and there isn't a single person at Facebook he can contact.

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by johnm1019 »

anondon wrote: post #3

Can anyone backup those revenue numbers from past experience? Curiously, the application name was not posted. I don't want to call bullsh*t, but if the claims could be verified, the discussion can move on to how to actually deal with the situation. I believe there are Facebook employees on HN, would it be possible to bring this matter to the attention of the concerned people, if the claims turn out to be valid?

I believe the application name appears in this message mentioned in the reddit post?

http://i.imgur.com/KHM2KE1.png

It appears in Cyrillic.

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by Beltiras »

rspeer wrote: post #8

This title's grammar is mangled and confusing on HN. The $160000 was for the developer, not for anyone else. The "for those who use Facebook ads" was a separate clause saying who the post is for. I know HN approves of original titles but also disapproves of sensationalism and exclamation points. I would suggest something like: App developer says: "Facebook stole my $160000"

The OP is from the Ukraine. I think grammar nitpicking is not the best way to understand the issue.

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by gambiting »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #12

After that I appealed to them many times but never got the answer. I must be missing something somewhere. This story doesn't sound right to me, but I don't know the systems involved. Can somebody tell me how over 100K can be at stake and this guy can't even get a real person to talk to? Ok, I understand the old "push popular stuff on the web and let the robots handle support" routine. But 160K? Really?

It happens with all big companies- once your app/account gets marked for fraud(and it looks like this one might have been, possibly incorrectly), absolutely no one will talk to you. The standard line of action with fraudsters is to cut of all contact, say that you can't provide information, etc etc.

Obviously there is a lot of money involved, to Facebook should step up and talk to the guy, but the cold treatment doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by skrebbel »

Beltiras wrote: post #16
rspeer wrote: post #8

This title's grammar is mangled and confusing on HN. The $160000 was for the developer, not for anyone else. The "for those who use Facebook ads" was a separate clause saying who the post is for. I know HN approves of original titles but also disapproves of sensationalism and exclamation points. I would suggest something like: App developer says: "Facebook stole my $160000"

The OP is from the Ukraine. I think grammar nitpicking is not the best way to understand the issue.

Complaining about "Your angry" is nitpicking. Suggesting an improvement to an incomprehensible title isn't.

Remember, you are not your work!

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by chii »

willvarfar wrote: post #4

Sad that the reddit advice is: [–]guitartrashmaster 45 points 4 hours ago Dude post on hacker news trust me perma-linkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]VikingIV -2 points 45 minutes ago This. Its the same with google; the only way for devs to get any kind of traction is by kicking up a fuss on HN. Its crazy that it has to be this way.

Except that for every fuss kicked up, there's probably countless ones that feel through the front page and never saw the light of day.

The process of calling out shitty behaviour should not have to involve popularity.

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by vsakos »

johnm1019 wrote: post #15
anondon wrote: post #3

Can anyone backup those revenue numbers from past experience? Curiously, the application name was not posted. I don't want to call bullsh*t, but if the claims could be verified, the discussion can move on to how to actually deal with the situation. I believe there are Facebook employees on HN, would it be possible to bring this matter to the attention of the concerned people, if the claims turn out to be valid?

I believe the application name appears in this message mentioned in the reddit post? http://i.imgur.com/KHM2KE1.png It appears in Cyrillic.

It means "content", I don't think it's the name of the app.
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