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Why a Brit chose to start a business in Berlin

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Re: Why a Brit chose to start a business in Berlin

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Wow, 20 square meters for €480? That doesn't register as affordable on my books (even with utilities included).

Yeah. If you're shooting for affordability, Athens is a much better bet. 20sqm studios below €100/month in the heart of the capital.

(Good luck getting decent internet, though.)

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While the author makes good points about the relative affordability of Berlin, one does have to wonder what the general plan for newsletter profitability is.

Hey! I'm the author! This is pretty cool to be number one on Hacker News. The idea behind the newsletter is to build a brand which makes liberal metropolitans comfortable with hearing viewpoints outside their own. Then I can monetise it! :)

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She must also speak German right?

She must learn German. The thing with Berlin is that there are a lot of startups with foreign people, and a lot of Germans speak English. But when you want to do normal day things as going to the market you need German to understand what are you buying and to talk with the people. It is not like other countries where you cannot get a job or life if you don't speak the language. You can get a job in Berlin as a Englis…

I agree, my experience after a week of work in Berlin was that a lot of the restaurants I visited, the waitress couldn't speak English at all. Or taking a cab was sometimes quite an effort to communicate as well.

Even more strange, Berlin (and perhaps much of Germany, I don't know), places much greater emphasis on cash than on electronic payments like credit cards. I gave a credit card to a vendor once and they looked like they couldn't figure out what it was. In fact, as they were trying to understand it, I motioned that they were in fact studying it upside down! Other restaurants would tell me it was the first credit card they had seen in weeks, and the owner simply hadn't bothered to bring the credit card machine in from his house in a long time. Not a problem, just a bit strange to me.

Berlin is a neat place, though, and I love German food (and beer) a lot, but it cannot be overstated how you quickly come to realize that you currently take for granted speaking the same language as everyone around you, and unless you know German already, that convenience will evaporate immediately upon moving there. Even all the Holywood movies and U.S. TV shows are dubbed into German -- it is the largest overdub market in the entertainment industry, because Germans generally place low emphasis on learning other languages (just like Americans do).

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She must also speak German right?

She must learn German. The thing with Berlin is that there are a lot of startups with foreign people, and a lot of Germans speak English. But when you want to do normal day things as going to the market you need German to understand what are you buying and to talk with the people. It is not like other countries where you cannot get a job or life if you don't speak the language. You can get a job in Berlin as a Englis…

Learning enough German for daily things is probably not a problem at all, but can you deal with authorities (business licenses, taxes, mandatory reports etc) in English or very broken German?

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Dresden is even better. I moved from Houston, TX to Dresden and I'm very happy with my choice. Technically it's more interesting, as the University and high tech companies here are much more advanced (i.e the l4 microkernel is from here), prices are the same, and Dresden is a much more beautiful town than ugly Berlin. Lots of English speaking foreigners, and people are more friendly. For startup's there's only one or two meetup points and helpers/investors but still better than Houston or Austin.

If going for cheap, Wroclaw or Prague would be better.

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She must also speak German right?

Hi there - I'm the author of this piece. I don't actually speak German. I'm trying to improve - however, I wouldn't say it's required in Germany to start something on your own. Many of the meetups are in English and everyone I've spoken to is fluent. I think it's another story if you're trying to get a job though...

Re: Why a Brit chose to start a business in Berlin

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Wow, 20 square meters for €480? That doesn't register as affordable on my books (even with utilities included).

It is affordable compare to London where the same thing it is probably 3 times more expensive. There are other cities with more affordable prices (Athens) but obviously the startup environment is not the same there. But Berlin it is catching up with London, so it is worth to consider.

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Before I click the link: Berlin is cheaper than London. Edit: And I was right, haha. While London is one of the most expensive cities in the world, Berlin is cheap for German conditions. At least the parts that haven't been gentrified yet ;) Berlin is really cool and has lots of alternative people and seems to be the only german city with a bigger start-up scene, but it's poor AF. I'm living in Stuttgart and while I…

Yup. Although I would note that there are also cheaper UK cities! Consider Liverpool or Bristol, for example.

The peculiarity of Berlin is that it has lower cost than many other German cities.

This is unusual, because typically you pay a premium for working in the capital of the nation. In Berlin, that is explained by the history (West Berlin was an enclave within DDR and the capital of BRD was in Bonn; Berlin was subsidized and had lots of relatively cheap housing which is not yet fully priced up 25 years after German unification).

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