When you consider how mathematics, an understanding of probability, and so on enhances your ability to see through bullshit in advertising, government, and to some extent religions (not faith, just religions); it's not hard to understand why so many people are not thrilled at the notion.
How should mathematics be taught to non-mathematicians? (2012)
11–20 of 87 posts
Re: How should mathematics be taught to non-mathematicians? (2012)
#12When you consider how mathematics, an understanding of probability, and so on enhances your ability to see through bullshit in advertising, government, and to some extent religions (not faith, just religions); it's not hard to understand why so many people are not thrilled at the notion.
Can yiu tell my why, please? I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but I'm curious as to whst you're alluding to.
Re: How should mathematics be taught to non-mathematicians? (2012)
#13When you consider how mathematics, an understanding of probability, and so on enhances your ability to see through bullshit in advertising, government, and to some extent religions (not faith, just religions); it's not hard to understand why so many people are not thrilled at the notion.
Much of advertising is emotional appeal.
Hell, if people understood those issues, they might even have something to say about Gerrymandering and the electoral college!
Re: How should mathematics be taught to non-mathematicians? (2012)
#14Does anyone know what happened regarding all this?
Re: How should mathematics be taught to non-mathematicians? (2012)
#15The title is missing year 2012. ("This entry was posted on June 8, 2012 at 4:53 pm") Does anyone know what happened regarding all this?
The UK elected a Conservative government who decided to base all 16+ Maths for non-mathematicians on the revised GCSE Maths syllabus. Colleges are now coping with large numbers of students aged 16, 17 and 18 being required to take the GCSE exam again while studying vocationally based qualifications. I'm teaching maths to trainee hairdressers, trainee car mechanics and would-be fine artists.
Pass rates are not high (we are starting with a selected sample after all and schools are pretty good at getting non-mathsy youngsters through). The statutory requirement ends at age 19 and so the majority of late teens will experience three more years of failure in a subject that they experienced failure in at school. That should guarantee another generation of the general public whose loathing of Maths is pretty marked.
Taking a wider view, I think that we all tend to learn things in a situated way and I therefore have a lot of time for the 'Functional Skills' approach to Maths and English if done properly. This was the approach adopted in most vocational training courses prior to the Gove era.
I also think that there is a place for a qualification based around probability, statistics, and critical thinking. I'd love to call it "How to spot bullshit when you see it". I'd make discussions of issues like genetic defects and screening, obesity and health education and so on a core component. It will never happen of course...
Re: How should mathematics be taught to non-mathematicians? (2012)
#16When you consider how mathematics, an understanding of probability, and so on enhances your ability to see through bullshit in advertising, government, and to some extent religions (not faith, just religions); it's not hard to understand why so many people are not thrilled at the notion.
Re: How should mathematics be taught to non-mathematicians? (2012)
#17Fermi estimates require you to look for relations in the real world, construct a model of the situation and then iterate improving the model by adding more information. You don't use that process just to give an example of using a rule or solving an equation, instead you emphasize how the problem could be tackle mathematically. So there are more room for open questions, incentives for exploring and suggesting new approaches, in a more relaxed atmosphere creativity can flourish, perhaps maths is more than a single equation written in an old book.
Re: How should mathematics be taught to non-mathematicians? (2012)
#18Re: How should mathematics be taught to non-mathematicians? (2012)
#19The title is missing year 2012. ("This entry was posted on June 8, 2012 at 4:53 pm") Does anyone know what happened regarding all this?
Probably not a direct consequence but... The UK elected a Conservative government who decided to base all 16+ Maths for non-mathematicians on the revised GCSE Maths syllabus. Colleges are now coping with large numbers of students aged 16, 17 and 18 being required to take the GCSE exam again while studying vocationally based qualifications. I'm teaching maths to trainee hairdressers, trainee car mechanics and would-be…
I know that anti-Gove rants are all over the place, but most of the people I know outside education don't have a clue about how poisonous his ideas have been; they don't withstand any serious scrutiny, but on the face of it may seem sane, so people who haven't thought about it will defend them. His replacement isn't far off his level, and I seriously fear for the future of education in the UK.
Re: How should mathematics be taught to non-mathematicians? (2012)
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably not a direct consequence but... The UK elected a Conservative government who decided to base all 16+ Maths for non-mathematicians on the revised GCSE Maths syllabus. Colleges are now coping with large numbers of students aged 16, 17 and 18 being required to take the GCSE exam again while studying vocationally based qualifications. I'm teaching maths to trainee hairdressers, trainee car mechanics and would-be…
Not sure if you're teaching in the above environment, but one of the schools I teach A-level at has a high number of maths-failing pupils, and as a result, many of those I teach are re-sitting maths in both their first and second years that I teach them. It's a typical case of Gove not thinking of the consequences of his (backwards, IMO) ideas - these people are definitely part of the generation you outline; it sprea…
In my opinion a lot of the Coalition policies (housing benefit changes, nursing/police/teaching pension changes, reduction in the number of nurse/teaching training places) were like Charlie's conveyor belt. They got a couple or three years of savings but now the belt has caught up. It is almost as if they did not expect to form a second government.
Many colleges are using the legacy syllabus this year. So when the majority of those come back again next year, we will be catching up with the conveyor because of the topics previously on the Higher tier added to the Foundation. I especially like it when a youngster 'taught' (i.e. coached in a smattering of topics) Higher tier can tell me some half remembered facts about the sine rule but has to use her fingers to work out seven sixes...