N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets • Hacker News Board

Re: N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets

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Post by wyldfire » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 5:03 PM UTC

zmanian wrote: post #7

Wonders if this is Shadowbrokers...

If I follow the news releases correctly, this arrest is not of Shadowbrokers but instead the trail from Shadowbrokers led back to a server(s) w/the NSA toolkit installed. Perhaps NSA followed those breadcrumbs back to this individual. Or: Shadowbrokers discovered actual NSA server and NSA is trying to scapegoat an individual in order to shed the appearance of operational ineptitude.

Re: N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets

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Post by matt_wulfeck » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 5:03 PM UTC

jbapple wrote: post #4

What constitutes a "secret arrest", as mentioned in this article? Jose Padilla was arrested and initially held without notice to his family or attorney. Is that what this arrest is like? What proportion of the arrests in the US are "secret"? When the families of the prisoners are told, are they sometimes bound by court orders not to disclose the arrests?

I also wondered about that. Why would you "secretly" arrest anyone? And here I thought a critical component of due process is that we don't detain people without charging them with a crime, which is necessarily an open process.

But what do I know? I'm just a schmuck who happens to believe normal people can read and interpret the constitution on their own.

Re: N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets

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Post by mxuribe » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 5:04 PM UTC

At some point is there an actual employee on the NSA side (maybe an HR rep.) asking the account manager on the Booz Allen Hamilton side: please stop sending us these guys/girls, they're just not working out, ok? ;-)

Re: N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets

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Post by idlewords » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 5:04 PM UTC

eeZah7Ux wrote: post #5

"New Theft of Secrets", as if whistleblowing was a bad thing. "he stole and disclosed highly classified computer codes developed to hack into the networks of foreign governments" "different in nature from Mr. Snowden’s theft" What's next, NYtimes, calling people "rats" for reporting a homicide?

Stealing source code from the NSA is not whistleblowing.

Re: N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets

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Post by acveilleux » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 5:04 PM UTC

This is why things like mandatory escrow and encryption backdoors are an horrible idea. However much the NSA would like us to use them.

Re: N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets

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Post by NN88 » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 5:08 PM UTC

they got him a month ago. gat'damn.

the US Government is playing a different game right now. Play time is over.

Re: N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets

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Post by dguido » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 5:10 PM UTC

Here's the criminal complaint. Check Paragraph 12, sounds like he just liked to take work home with him. I'm leaning on the side that this IS NOT ShadowBrokers.

https://lawfare.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/staging/2016/Mart...

EDIT: Yeah, Martin is not even being charged with unauthorized disclosure. Not ShadowBrokers, sorry to burst everyone's bubble.

Re: N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets

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Post by NN88 » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 5:10 PM UTC

This dummy was caught red handed. Documents, hardware, etc.

Re: N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets

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Post by NN88 » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 5:11 PM UTC

dguido wrote: post #17

Here's the criminal complaint. Check Paragraph 12, sounds like he just liked to take work home with him. I'm leaning on the side that this IS NOT ShadowBrokers. https://lawfare.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/staging/2016/Mart... EDIT: Yeah, Martin is not even being charged with unauthorized disclosure. Not ShadowBrokers, sorry to burst everyone's bubble.

MANY have said that its possible there was another NSA patsy covering for Snowden or definitely at least another spy.

http://observer.com/2016/08/the-real-russian-mole-inside-nsa...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/world/europe/wikileaks-jul...

Re: N.S.A. Contractor Arrested in Possible New Theft of Secrets

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Post by engx » Wed, Oct 05, 2016, 5:12 PM UTC

Whatever happened to the other "second Snowden" where it was reported DoJ was reluctant to prosecute?

http://news.yahoo.com/feds-identify-suspected--second-leaker...