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Online music distribution companies may not want Creative Commons music

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Re: Online music distribution companies may not want Creative Commons music

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Post by mschuster91 »

tehwebguy wrote: post #7

I kind of hope YouTube gets mad and tells those distros to eat shit. Aside from rights management do these "distros" do ANYTHING anymore? And they are too lazy to do any rights management work that YouTube isn't performing semi- or fully-automatically? YouTube should not allow them to simply be gate keepers.

> Aside from rights management do these "distros" do ANYTHING anymore?

Yes - getting physical media manufactured and distributed worldwide, promotion, and organizing world tours. All that needs massive financial firepower, you're not going to get e.g. prime-time TV ad spots as an indie label.

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Post by chillydawg »

voidz wrote: post #2

My buddy Ryno - http://rynothebearded.com/ has a weekly podcast that focuses on music under a CC license. There are many great tunes available free of charge, and it's very strange that music falling under this license doesn't get more traction.

I don't think it's strange, really. Music is generally publicised by large labels on purpose and at great expense. It would be incredibly rare for an unsigned (not to mention a CC no one is getting paid for) track to get on the A playlist of a national radio station without someone actively pushing it with all the usual PR that comes with a record release.

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Post by slavik81 »

Licensing something as free and then going around and making backroom deals with platform holders so it cannot freely be used is misleading and unethical. If I use CC-BY music in a game I make, I don't want to discover after the fact that you will insert ads in my YouTube trailer.

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Post by chmike »

Cc is the open source of creation. I'm fascinated by the power of open source. capitalism pushed to its extream is harmful to humanity. Just look at junk food to convince yourself if you aren't yet. By its incremental enhancement, it leads to exponential growth. It is slow in the start because incremental steps are small, but it leads to a tsunami.

I believe we are on the verge to see a fundamental change in the way the worlds economy is working. This may still take 100 years, but capitalism is doomed because it leads to unstable economical states and it's harmful for humanity (e.g speculation on food).

Lets keep pushing on the snowball and extend that model to other domains. I think that scientists pioneered that model, hence the exponential scientific progress.

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Post by hueving »

chmike wrote: post #14

Cc is the open source of creation. I'm fascinated by the power of open source. capitalism pushed to its extream is harmful to humanity. Just look at junk food to convince yourself if you aren't yet. By its incremental enhancement, it leads to exponential growth. It is slow in the start because incremental steps are small, but it leads to a tsunami. I believe we are on the verge to see a fundamental change in the way…

It seems you are implying that food which people like to eat (junk food) wouldn't be created in an 'open source' economy. Why?

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Post by RileyJames »

keithpeter wrote: post #6
RileyJames wrote: post #4

I was considering releasing some music under the CC SA-NC for exactly this purpose. I want people to share it, but I don't want it expoited without permission (which I'd gladly give, I just want to know by who). To avoid the distribution issue, is it possible to use a CC licence for music downloaded from your website, while using a RR licence when providing to the distributors? (On the same song). Any reason why the…

Or release a slightly different version over the distribution channels so two distinct works?

Didn't think of that, great idea. The "Spotify mix", "YouTube mix"... A new licence for every channel.

Could this also get around channels demanding "exclusives"

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Post by lucaspiller »

As someone who isn't at all familiar with music distribution, is YouTube really the best way for indie artists to distribute, and monetise, their music? The audio quality seems a lot lower compared to Spotify, and I don't really want to waste bandwidth on a video just to listen to music while I'm working. On the other hand I've noticed some mainstream music is blocked for me on Spotify, but available on YouTube.

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Post by andrewaylett »

Surely part of the problem is that content-id is a bit far-reaching for CC-licensed content? That is, as my understanding goes: if I release music under CC then you use that music, per its license, to make a derived work and stick it on YT, now I get paid for (and get to stick adverts on) your fully-licensed work! That seems a bit unfair.

So I can see that there would be benefit to a creator being able to monetise their own works on YT, but surely there needs to be a mechanism in place to protect legitimate licensees from an over-reaching licensing grab? And at the moment it seems like that mechanism is just not letting people into the monetisation system at all.

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Post by john61 »

hueving wrote: post #15
chmike wrote: post #14

Cc is the open source of creation. I'm fascinated by the power of open source. capitalism pushed to its extream is harmful to humanity. Just look at junk food to convince yourself if you aren't yet. By its incremental enhancement, it leads to exponential growth. It is slow in the start because incremental steps are small, but it leads to a tsunami. I believe we are on the verge to see a fundamental change in the way…

It seems you are implying that food which people like to eat (junk food) wouldn't be created in an 'open source' economy. Why?

Because in an open source environment the quality of the product is not defined by its commercial success but rather by the fun to create and share it. Therefore it is more in line with its intrinsic quality.
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