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Every Black Hole Contains Another Universe?

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Re: Every Black Hole Contains Another Universe?

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Post by chrischen »

Is the black whole compressing space? So basically it makes things so small to us it's practically another universe? Then considering things can become infinitely large we are just part of another bigger universe.

Anyways I always thought that parallel universes could not interact with each other (since, if I understand correctly, the parallel universes in the many worlds theory cannot interact with each other) so describing the black holes as containing another universe seems misleading.

Re: Every Black Hole Contains Another Universe?

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Post by Deestan »

chrischen wrote: post #11

Is the black whole compressing space? So basically it makes things so small to us it's practically another universe? Then considering things can become infinitely large we are just part of another bigger universe. Anyways I always thought that parallel universes could not interact with each other (since, if I understand correctly, the parallel universes in the many worlds theory cannot interact with each other) so de…

In these matters, the human concepts of size and space breaks down and are as good as meaningless, so it's counterproductive to think of other universes as smaller or bigger. They just are. :)

The many worlds theory and its parallel universes is unrelated to this, so its rule of no interaction does no apply.

Re: Every Black Hole Contains Another Universe?

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Post by joss82 »

malbs wrote: post #7
apphacker wrote: post #2

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Also what happens to this "universe" when the black hole dissipates due to Hawkins Radiation?

The idea of the big bang being caused by some sort of 'white hole', is kind of cool. Here you have an object absorbing all matter, becoming infinitely dense, and at some point, it becomes so dense with matter that it actually tears a hole right through the fabric of the universe, where it then diffuses into a new reality where matter is low/non-existant. You'd have to agree that if this is possible, the 'explosion' t…

Such a phenomenom would break the law of conservation of mass and energy so bad it will go back to its mother and cry all night.

Re: Every Black Hole Contains Another Universe?

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Post by chrischen »

Deestan wrote: post #15
chrischen wrote: post #11

Is the black whole compressing space? So basically it makes things so small to us it's practically another universe? Then considering things can become infinitely large we are just part of another bigger universe. Anyways I always thought that parallel universes could not interact with each other (since, if I understand correctly, the parallel universes in the many worlds theory cannot interact with each other) so de…

In these matters, the human concepts of size and space breaks down and are as good as meaningless, so it's counterproductive to think of other universes as smaller or bigger. They just are . :) The many worlds theory and its parallel universes is unrelated to this, so its rule of no interaction does no apply.

> In these matters, the human concepts of size and space breaks down and are as good as meaningless, so it's counterproductive to think of other universes as smaller or bigger. They just are. :)

But what if it is the best way of describing it? How else could you explain it in the event we discover that we can keep on finding smaller and smaller particles?

> The many worlds theory and its parallel universes is unrelated to this, so its rule of no interaction does no apply.

Yea, but I like to think of all these universes as still part of our universe, since we would be able to interact with them.

Re: Every Black Hole Contains Another Universe?

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Post by fun2have »

Is this not a Turtles all the way down theory. We are in a Black hole which is inside a Black Hole?

A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the center of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very clever, young man, very clever", said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down!"

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_down

Re: Every Black Hole Contains Another Universe?

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Post by rms »

fun2have wrote: post #19

Is this not a Turtles all the way down theory. We are in a Black hole which is inside a Black Hole? A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the center of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got…

I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with a Turtles all the way down theory, as long as it is supported by facts.
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