The dutch led investigation has been a joke from the start, the previous report they released was submitted to Russia for screening prior to publication, they had them remove any references to this being an carried out by Russian soldiers operating in Eastern Ukraine as all evidence to date clearly shows.
MH17 missile 'brought in from Russia'
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#12If there is solid evidence and especially if there are multiple witnesses then this should be taken to court!
Im not sure who the defendant should be on the Russian side, the ministry of defense?
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#13The new bit I suppose is this:
"They also narrowed down the area it was fired from to a field in territory controlled by Russian-backed rebels."
Little doubt has there been that the weapon used was made in Russia.
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#14If there is solid evidence and especially if there are multiple witnesses then this should be taken to court! Im not sure who the defendant should be on the Russian side, the ministry of defense?
> If there is solid evidence and especially if there are multiple witnesses then this should be taken to court!
Which court?
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#15If there is solid evidence and especially if there are multiple witnesses then this should be taken to court! Im not sure who the defendant should be on the Russian side, the ministry of defense?
When countries do this it is either a war or nothing.
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#16I just don't understand how can pilot be so reckless to fly over known warzone? Hey I'm not saying it's their own fault, but please stop telling me that it's "safe" because it's not. It was a known warzone. Todays example: Virgin Atlantic, Air France and Emirates will no longer allow its planes to fly over Iraq due to concerns about the dangers posed by Islamic militants.
Are you for real? There's war zones all over the world, usually that doesn't mean shooting down a passenger flight 10km high, for which you need specialized equipment, not just a random shoulder carry rocket. Until the incident, airspace at civilian cruising altitudes was free and open in Ukraine. Hint: space is 3d, lower levels were closed in various places.
On July 14th 2014, just three days before the MH17 incident, an Antonov AN-26 Ukrainian military transport plane was hit at 21 000 feet altitude, so there was a strong indication that SAMs were available to the seperatists. According to the Dutch Safety Board, the airspace should have been closed [1].
[1] http://www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/dutch-safety-board-u...
Re: MH17 missile 'brought in from Russia'
#17The new bit I suppose is this: "They also narrowed down the area it was fired from to a field in territory controlled by Russian-backed rebels." Little doubt has there been that the weapon used was made in Russia.
Also that the missile was transported from Russia shortly before the shootdown, and the launcher and remaining missiles were transported back to Russia. They mean "came from" in a more specific manner than just that it was made there.
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#18If there is solid evidence and especially if there are multiple witnesses then this should be taken to court! Im not sure who the defendant should be on the Russian side, the ministry of defense?
> If there is solid evidence and especially if there are multiple witnesses then this should be taken to court! Which court?
that's a question for lawyers out there. im sure there are precedents in our history.
Track down who gave the order and sue them! Does not matter who it is - P. or his buddies.
Otherwise what is the point of this "investigation"?
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#19I just don't understand how can pilot be so reckless to fly over known warzone? Hey I'm not saying it's their own fault, but please stop telling me that it's "safe" because it's not. It was a known warzone. Todays example: Virgin Atlantic, Air France and Emirates will no longer allow its planes to fly over Iraq due to concerns about the dangers posed by Islamic militants.
And a bunch of other airlines are not diverting from Iraq because they disagree about the danger.
At the time of the MH17 shootdown, some airlines were already diverting around eastern Ukraine, and many others were not.
A reasonable assessment of the danger was made, and they decided that it was safe enough to continue flying there. That assessment turned out to be wrong, but that doesn't mean the it was "reckless."
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#20If there is solid evidence and especially if there are multiple witnesses then this should be taken to court! Im not sure who the defendant should be on the Russian side, the ministry of defense?
When countries do this it is either a war or nothing.
im sure you are kidding. no one is going to war with Russia anytime soon! lol
..so it is likely to be a nothing.