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Oracle’s Cloudy Future

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Re: Oracle’s Cloudy Future

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Post by gizmodo59 »

A genuine question: If you have worked with any fortune 500/1000 companies (Lets pick non software based companies) either directly or if they are your customers, how many of them use Oracle database or SQL Server?

Some of the reasons why this trend WILL continue:

1. Critical software like databases needs support. To the point where there should be someone who can come on premise to fix things.

2. We need to use X because X is used by other big corporations and you never get fired for choosing X.

3. The products (Oracle,MS SQL) are not that bad. (Not sure if there is a better way to put this)

I could be wrong, but I can't think of any other important reason. Can anyone pitch in their experience?

Re: Oracle’s Cloudy Future

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Post by godzillabrennus »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #11

A genuine question: If you have worked with any fortune 500/1000 companies (Lets pick non software based companies) either directly or if they are your customers, how many of them use Oracle database or SQL Server? Some of the reasons why this trend WILL continue: 1. Critical software like databases needs support. To the point where there should be someone who can come on premise to fix things. 2. We need to use X be…

Business managers will get charged with making tech decisions for projects and they will choose brands they trust.

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Post by pdevr »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #11

A genuine question: If you have worked with any fortune 500/1000 companies (Lets pick non software based companies) either directly or if they are your customers, how many of them use Oracle database or SQL Server? Some of the reasons why this trend WILL continue: 1. Critical software like databases needs support. To the point where there should be someone who can come on premise to fix things. 2. We need to use X be…

Also, the fact that once you have almost complete monopoly in the enterprise market, only a huge paradigm shift will knock you down. Most of the times, the market leaders are able to adapt, and the clients give them a lot of leeway - not the least because of the points which you pointed out.

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Post by geodel »

Oracle is going to be hobbled by Cloud providers in similar manner as TV networks by Netflix. If Oracle reduce access of its software to Cloud infrastructure providers then they lose potential revenue stream and Cloud providers can start promoting alternatives. On the other hand if cloud providers have access to Oracle products in their cloud then Oracle cloud looks unimpressive to customers and no reason to use Oracle cloud.

Like networks learned that must watch shows are decreasing on their networks in last few year Oracle will learn their software is must for decreasing number of customers.

Re: Oracle’s Cloudy Future

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Post by jdcarter »

What a lot of these analysts overlook is why Oracle is trying to take on Amazon, despite being years late to the party. I believe it's a defensive move: Oracle is seeing long-time customers deploy new applications in AWS, and that customer starts to realize, "hey, that went pretty well, why not move more of my stuff to AWS?" Their Oracle sales rep comes calling, and suddenly a once-reliable customer needs fewer Oracle licenses than last year.

Oracle therefore needs an answer to those customers transitioning to the cloud; they want their own cloud to sell. Oracle can undercut Amazon on price--even run their own cloud offerings at a loss for a while--because losing some money on their cloud is better than losing customers from their high-margin products.

Re: Oracle’s Cloudy Future

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Post by ako »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #11

A genuine question: If you have worked with any fortune 500/1000 companies (Lets pick non software based companies) either directly or if they are your customers, how many of them use Oracle database or SQL Server? Some of the reasons why this trend WILL continue: 1. Critical software like databases needs support. To the point where there should be someone who can come on premise to fix things. 2. We need to use X be…

Because it's in the upper right gartner quadrant.

Re: Oracle’s Cloudy Future

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Post by PetrolMan »

gizmodo59 wrote: post #11

A genuine question: If you have worked with any fortune 500/1000 companies (Lets pick non software based companies) either directly or if they are your customers, how many of them use Oracle database or SQL Server? Some of the reasons why this trend WILL continue: 1. Critical software like databases needs support. To the point where there should be someone who can come on premise to fix things. 2. We need to use X be…

My company nearly had #2 pushed on us. We've been using Postgres and there is no solid reason for us to switch but a consultant came in an suggested Oracle just because all the big boys use it. That argument has a measurable amount of sway for some reason.
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