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Re: MacOS Sierra

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This is the first version of Mac OS X that I'm 0% excited about. Literally none of the new features[1] are useful to me, considering: I don't have or want an iPhone I don't have or want an iPad I don't have or want an iWatch I don't have or want an iCloud account I don't have or want an Apple Pay account I don't have or want an iTunes Music account I don't use or need Photos.app I don't use or need Messages.app I don…

I apologize to you for Apple for not catering to your specific needs and wants when rolling out their newest version of OSX. I'm so sorry that you consider none of these new features exciting nor useful. Personally, I agree with you to an extent - I prefer taking notes on individual parchment paper with a Ticonderoga #2 HB pencil that I sharpen with my $400 hand crafted knife. Heck, I don't even use digital photos or…

I'm far from a hipster. The pens I use are apparently called "uni-ball", which I got from Walmart, which is also where I got my $3 little pocket notepad.

But I'm also not willing to spend large amounts of money to buy cool new gadgets that don't actually improve my quality of life at all, despite whatever Apple's keynotes will say.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if you use your computer as a sort of "dumb device" or single (or few) purpose instrument (typewriter, internet terminal, etc), then there's only so much innovation they are likely to make in those areas over a period of time. It's natural for them to also look at integrating with other devices and providing new functionality. Obviously not everything will interest you, and it's possible some releases will just…

"Integrating with other devices" is not their goal. Selling desktops, laptops, monitors, phones, tablets, watches, keyboards, mice, trackpads, ear buds, and to a lesser extent subscription accounts, that's their goal. If they truly wanted to provide useful integration, they would make Android and Windows Phone devices first class citizens just as much as the iPhone. They're first and foremost a hardware company. Even…

> "Integrating with other devices" is not their goal. Selling desktops, laptops, monitors, phones, tablets, watches, keyboards, mice, trackpads, ear buds, and to a lesser extent subscription accounts, that's their goal.

Obviously, but offering better integration (even if only with their own ecosystem) is how they are trying to sell more right now.

> There's plenty of useful innovations they could still make that doesn't require them to focus on up-selling me new hardware

I didn't say there weren't, just that it's not likely to advance beyond a certain level in a certain time period. This is about feedback and learning what ideas survive in the market. To their credit, Apple is fairly good at coming up with radical leaps (or, at least implementing those leaps on a mass scale)[1], but they are fairly bad IMO at listening to whether they are working out well in practice (Google has the opposite problem, they so aggressively remove failed ideas that the few people that liked them feel betrayed, and express it loudly). Throwing a few hundred million dollars right now at word processing, or the browser, or any particular thing and then ignoring it is probably not as efficient as a few tens of millions spread out over years, just because there's only so much you can do to advance a field in a short period.

> I guess the one upside you could say is that they're probably not selling your data and/or profile to advertisers. So at least they have that going for them.

Apple ran (runs?) their own advertising service for mobile apps, iAd. I'm not sure the status currently.

That said, Google isn't selling your profile or data to advertisers. That makes zero sense for them to do, and they probably have quite a lot of safeguards to make sure absolutely the bare minimum of information about an individual an ad is served to makes it back to the advertiser (preferably nothing). This isn't because they are stalwart defenders of privacy, but because it's in their best interest to not give away the data that they make their money from. I trust them to act in their self interest.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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post #3

This is the first version of Mac OS X that I'm 0% excited about. Literally none of the new features[1] are useful to me, considering: I don't have or want an iPhone I don't have or want an iPad I don't have or want an iWatch I don't have or want an iCloud account I don't have or want an Apple Pay account I don't have or want an iTunes Music account I don't use or need Photos.app I don't use or need Messages.app I don…

I agree. I use my iMac to run my music studio and none of these features appeal to me in the least. I suppose users who own an iphone or iwatch may be excited about this update, but I don't own either of those devices. Most of these features seem cosmetic or serve to lock current users into the apple ecosystem.Personally, I'm not updating.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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post #3

This is the first version of Mac OS X that I'm 0% excited about. Literally none of the new features[1] are useful to me, considering: I don't have or want an iPhone I don't have or want an iPad I don't have or want an iWatch I don't have or want an iCloud account I don't have or want an Apple Pay account I don't have or want an iTunes Music account I don't use or need Photos.app I don't use or need Messages.app I don…

> I don't use the computer enough for tabs to be useful

Fine, but why are you posting on a forum principally made of developers?

Re: MacOS Sierra

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I apologize to you for Apple for not catering to your specific needs and wants when rolling out their newest version of OSX. I'm so sorry that you consider none of these new features exciting nor useful. Personally, I agree with you to an extent - I prefer taking notes on individual parchment paper with a Ticonderoga #2 HB pencil that I sharpen with my $400 hand crafted knife. Heck, I don't even use digital photos or…

I'm far from a hipster. The pens I use are apparently called "uni-ball", which I got from Walmart, which is also where I got my $3 little pocket notepad. But I'm also not willing to spend large amounts of money to buy cool new gadgets that don't actually improve my quality of life at all, despite whatever Apple's keynotes will say.

This is free.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I apologize to you for Apple for not catering to your specific needs and wants when rolling out their newest version of OSX. I'm so sorry that you consider none of these new features exciting nor useful. Personally, I agree with you to an extent - I prefer taking notes on individual parchment paper with a Ticonderoga #2 HB pencil that I sharpen with my $400 hand crafted knife. Heck, I don't even use digital photos or…

Ticonderogas make for fine pencils though.

Yeah, I'm only half sarcastic. Polaroid cameras are also fun to play with.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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post #3

This is the first version of Mac OS X that I'm 0% excited about. Literally none of the new features[1] are useful to me, considering: I don't have or want an iPhone I don't have or want an iPad I don't have or want an iWatch I don't have or want an iCloud account I don't have or want an Apple Pay account I don't have or want an iTunes Music account I don't use or need Photos.app I don't use or need Messages.app I don…

> Am I part of a dying demographic, who doesn't use/need/want any of this fancy Star Trek futuristic life

Yes, it's called "older people". Just kidding… :-)

TBH, I've never understood this kind of post. Nobody cares if you (or I for that matter) are "excited" about an OS upgrade. It's an OS upgrade!!!

And actually, I think you're expressing something very mainstream, not a "dying demographic" at all. Tech fatigue is a thing.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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This is the first version of Mac OS X that I'm 0% excited about. Literally none of the new features[1] are useful to me, considering: I don't have or want an iPhone I don't have or want an iPad I don't have or want an iWatch I don't have or want an iCloud account I don't have or want an Apple Pay account I don't have or want an iTunes Music account I don't use or need Photos.app I don't use or need Messages.app I don…

I agree. Apple needs to take a page from Android, and start breaking up these apps and distributing them outside of the OS so they can deliver new features faster. Why do we have to update the entire OS just to get a new version of the photos and messages app?

> Why do we have to update the entire OS just to get a new version of the photos and messages app?

The new apps drive adoption of the rest of the OS. This reduces the support cost of the old OS and spreads security updates.

Re: MacOS Sierra

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post #8
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if you use your computer as a sort of "dumb device" or single (or few) purpose instrument (typewriter, internet terminal, etc), then there's only so much innovation they are likely to make in those areas over a period of time. It's natural for them to also look at integrating with other devices and providing new functionality. Obviously not everything will interest you, and it's possible some releases will just…

"Integrating with other devices" is not their goal. Selling desktops, laptops, monitors, phones, tablets, watches, keyboards, mice, trackpads, ear buds, and to a lesser extent subscription accounts, that's their goal. If they truly wanted to provide useful integration, they would make Android and Windows Phone devices first class citizens just as much as the iPhone. They're first and foremost a hardware company. Even…

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Re: MacOS Sierra

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post #3

This is the first version of Mac OS X that I'm 0% excited about. Literally none of the new features[1] are useful to me, considering: I don't have or want an iPhone I don't have or want an iPad I don't have or want an iWatch I don't have or want an iCloud account I don't have or want an Apple Pay account I don't have or want an iTunes Music account I don't use or need Photos.app I don't use or need Messages.app I don…

I apologize to you for Apple for not catering to your specific needs and wants when rolling out their newest version of OSX. I'm so sorry that you consider none of these new features exciting nor useful. Personally, I agree with you to an extent - I prefer taking notes on individual parchment paper with a Ticonderoga #2 HB pencil that I sharpen with my $400 hand crafted knife. Heck, I don't even use digital photos or…

Maybe it wouldn't be such a dud if there was the possibility of using any of this outside the walled garden of filling your house only with Apple products.

Once upon a time apple.com advertised their OS by showing off what you could create with it and how it was based on open technology. Now it's just about how the computer and its flock of gadgets can entertain and do your thinking for you, if only you give in to the mothership.

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