How does this actually control the vehicle? Is there a physical component that literally moves the steering wheel or presses the brakes?
It only works with vehicles which have built-in capability of auto steering and braking
Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year
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Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year
#12I would love nothing more than for Bay Area congestion to be solved by self-driving cars, but I take this announcement with a grain of salt because it lacks any mention of liabilities and regulatory hurdles. Unless the management can answer the difficult questions, unforeseen difficulties likely await anyone who installs this device in their car. Insurance companies may refuse to cover accidents caused by the device, and automakers may even void the warranty if there is any demonstrable link between self-driving and increased engine wear & tear.
I am fairly confident that self-driving will proliferate a feature offered by the automaker at the time of purchase, just as adaptive cruise control and lane assist is becoming commonplace right now. It may be difficult to convince an average consumer to rig up a device in their car that isn't supported by their automaker.
Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year
#13If it really works like they say and can be added to any car, that's pretty huge. I'd definitely buy one. I wonder what it takes to install it ...
They mentioned the car has to have built in radar already.
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#14This may be insensitive but is the name too close to "coma" given the odds that one of their users will end up in one (through the product's fault or not)?
Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year
#15I would love nothing more than for Bay Area congestion to be solved by self-driving cars, but I take this announcement with a grain of salt because it lacks any mention of liabilities and regulatory hurdles. Unless the management can answer the difficult questions, unforeseen difficulties likely await anyone who installs this device in their car. Insurance companies may refuse to cover accidents caused by the device,…
Autonomous driving isn't really regulated though. Google's Chauffeur is the only autonomous software I'm aware has even passed a state driving test.
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#16Huge props to Geohot for getting this to market (barring it ships). Curious - if it replaces the rear-view mirror, then what do you use as a rear-view mirror?
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#17If it really works like they say and can be added to any car, that's pretty huge. I'd definitely buy one. I wonder what it takes to install it ...
They mentioned the car has to have built in radar already.
What car has built in radar? I'd love to get one and have it repeatedly send out radar pulses so cops think I'm going 200MPH.
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#18How does this actually control the vehicle? Is there a physical component that literally moves the steering wheel or presses the brakes?
It only works with vehicles which have built-in capability of auto steering and braking
What do you mean by "auto steering and braking"? Does this simply turn on settings that already exist in the car or does this actually control the car through fly by wire commands? If it is the latter, is this something that car manufacturers actively support third parties doing? To the layman like me, that seems like a huge potential liability.
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#19> The $999 price point is designed to be affordable, and is possible because of the components Comma uses in its product, which tend to be inexpensive off-the-shelf electronics.
"Inexpensive off-the-shelf electronics" aren't rated for automotive environmental conditions, nor do they have the immunity to interference (e.g., single event upsets) required for safety-critical systems.
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#20Hotz is a proven, remarkable engineer.
But if there was ever a case for a "business guy" to be involved with a pitch this was it.
His messaging works at some level - "I'm shipping something REAL and SMALL and ACHIEVABLE"
But his pitch has two huge problems:
(a) The delivery is rough. He comes across as patronizing and manic. I want to put my life in his hands?
(b) He fumbles (like Musk has) with the difference between his pitch "Mountain View to San Francisco without touching the wheel" and the reality "It is fully functional. It’s about on par with Tesla Autopilot"
Lots of potential in the product but for me this pitch diminished the chances that I'd ever own the device.