What CSS framework is recommend these days if you can afford being flexbox only?
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Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released
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#12What CSS framework is recommend these days if you can afford being flexbox only?
What for do you need a framework? For buttons? For the grid? You most likely have to adjust them anyways, so why not make a clean approach without the bloat (in a sense of coding style [I'm very much into BEM]) of a framework?
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#13What's new? I haven't been following bootstrap 4, ( especially since I switched to http://semantic-ui.com/ ). * I see a list of themes priced at 100$ :/ (maybe that's a good thing?) * "Moved from Less to Sass". OK, that's a late addition but always welcomed. (Although there was already an unofficial sass version of bootstrap.) * "Opt-in flexbox support is here". Why would flexbox not be opt-out? * "giving you more op…
Just checked out semantic and I really like what it offers. But file size is a concern for my use case. Min css and js combined are almost 800 kB. Just button.min.css size is almost as large as bootstrap.min.css
Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released
#14What CSS framework is recommend these days if you can afford being flexbox only?
What for do you need a framework? For buttons? For the grid? You most likely have to adjust them anyways, so why not make a clean approach without the bloat (in a sense of coding style [I'm very much into BEM]) of a framework?
yeah, mostly for the design part and CSS quirks among browsers. I do want to start with just sass and flexbox only though, but don't know how much hassle it will be.
Thanks for mentioning BEM, do you use it with sass?
Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released
#15Beginning to wonder why they need to break compatibility so often?
Many frontend devs (including a younger version of myself) don't care about compatibility and have a "let's rewrite everything" mentality.
Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released
#16What CSS framework is recommend these days if you can afford being flexbox only?
For vast majority of websites, no need to use framework. Work from scratch. No resets, no normalizing, nothing. Add in components as you go. Keep it light and bug free this way. Frameworks are unnecessary for most projects.
Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released
#17Tested and looks like compatibility is broken with offsets , changes to btn sizes, label margins and looks like custom style for select form elements has changed or removed. I think its best not to use this in any projects until its out of beta.
You mean out of alpha? Even more reason not to use it!
Eh. I regularly use EcmaScript stage 0 proposals in smaller projects. If it's not getting a heap of users, why not experiment?
Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released
#18What's new? I haven't been following bootstrap 4, ( especially since I switched to http://semantic-ui.com/ ). * I see a list of themes priced at 100$ :/ (maybe that's a good thing?) * "Moved from Less to Sass". OK, that's a late addition but always welcomed. (Although there was already an unofficial sass version of bootstrap.) * "Opt-in flexbox support is here". Why would flexbox not be opt-out? * "giving you more op…
There was a good video floating around of reasons to not use flex for the overall page layout, due to resizing as the content loaded.
I still do, but I can see why it's opt-in rather than opt out.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
What for do you need a framework? For buttons? For the grid? You most likely have to adjust them anyways, so why not make a clean approach without the bloat (in a sense of coding style [I'm very much into BEM]) of a framework?
yeah, mostly for the design part and CSS quirks among browsers. I do want to start with just sass and flexbox only though, but don't know how much hassle it will be. Thanks for mentioning BEM, do you use it with sass?
I use SASS mixins specifically instead of BEM: this keeps styling out of my HTML (no visual classes to change) at the expense of a few bytes.
Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released
#20What CSS framework is recommend these days if you can afford being flexbox only?
What for do you need a framework? For buttons? For the grid? You most likely have to adjust them anyways, so why not make a clean approach without the bloat (in a sense of coding style [I'm very much into BEM]) of a framework?
For me I always start with a framework because then I have easy access to templates.