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The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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The same FBI that fights the War on Drugs and the War on Whistle-blowers so violently? The FBI that was behind COINTELPRO (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO)? The FBI that recommended against prosecution of Clinton despite finding that she was negligent in her handling of classified information?

Cry me a river.

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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post #5

So even the article says the main reason they can't hire good hackers is that the can't offer reasonable compensation, long term career prospects etc. But het, much easier to blame those hackers for smoking pot. This is just a stupid excuse for why he is not doing his job effectively.

that's why i hate story like Mr Robot. It give bad impression.

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Three years is kind of crazy. NSA, CIA, and other agencies it's one year. FBI should have the easiest time finding hackers. Unlike the CIA and NSA, they have offices in almost every major city, but they don't seem to take advantage of that at all. They don't event list any tech/cyber/whatever roles here: https://apply.fbijobs.gov/

False. NSA is definitely 10 years [1]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Scope_Background_Invest...

You can still pass your investigation if you've done drugs in the last 10 years but you do have to disclose it and sign a form that states you won't do it again or associate with anyone who does while you have a clearance (edit: or at least that's how it was 10 years ago).

The purpose of clearance investigations isn't to dig up dirt in order to hurt you you, it's to find out what dirt foreign intel services can dig up on you in order to hurt/blackmail you.

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Three years is kind of crazy. NSA, CIA, and other agencies it's one year. FBI should have the easiest time finding hackers. Unlike the CIA and NSA, they have offices in almost every major city, but they don't seem to take advantage of that at all. They don't event list any tech/cyber/whatever roles here: https://apply.fbijobs.gov/

False. NSA is definitely 10 years [1]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Scope_Background_Invest...

Ehh... no, that's how far back they look, but only within the last year is sometimes a disqualifier. I can tell you that they will overlook even fairly recent usage sometimes.

CIA: "To be considered suitable for Agency employment, applicants must generally not have used illegal drugs or misused prescription drugs within the last 12 months."

NSA: "Recent and/or frequent use of illegal drugs, including marijuana even in states whose laws permit its recreational or medical use, could raise a security concern, and may be disqualifying"

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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post #2

Three years seems like an unreasonable timespan. They might end up with people who have little to no social skills with that kind of policy. I don't mean to say that not abstaining for that length of time is abnormal, but young people who are the most adept and skilled with new technologies are bound to find themselves in a situation where they take a hit. I wonder if the drug tests after that are regularly scheduled…

>I wonder if the drug tests after that are regularly scheduled or if they take you at your word once you're hired. If the FBI anything like the DOE it's random for the duration you have a clearance. Random polygraphs too which are much, much worse.

So scrolling through this thread so far we have

- No smoking pot in 3 years

- Random drug tests

- Random lie detector tests

- Not the best pay in the world

- Lousy career prospects

- Working with others who they admit aren't the most technical in the world

Yeah can't see why they're having trouble hiring

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I wonder if the drug tests after that are regularly scheduled or if they take you at your word once you're hired. If the FBI anything like the DOE it's random for the duration you have a clearance. Random polygraphs too which are much, much worse.

So scrolling through this thread so far we have - No smoking pot in 3 years - Random drug tests - Random lie detector tests - Not the best pay in the world - Lousy career prospects - Working with others who they admit aren't the most technical in the world Yeah can't see why they're having trouble hiring

They probably rely on a sense of patriotism/duty/exclusivity to make this work for other "on the line" departments

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I wonder if the drug tests after that are regularly scheduled or if they take you at your word once you're hired. If the FBI anything like the DOE it's random for the duration you have a clearance. Random polygraphs too which are much, much worse.

So scrolling through this thread so far we have - No smoking pot in 3 years - Random drug tests - Random lie detector tests - Not the best pay in the world - Lousy career prospects - Working with others who they admit aren't the most technical in the world Yeah can't see why they're having trouble hiring

I guess you can throw ridiculous dress code in too?

Re: The FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot (2014)

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post #2

Three years seems like an unreasonable timespan. They might end up with people who have little to no social skills with that kind of policy. I don't mean to say that not abstaining for that length of time is abnormal, but young people who are the most adept and skilled with new technologies are bound to find themselves in a situation where they take a hit. I wonder if the drug tests after that are regularly scheduled…

Now that it's been legalized in Oregon, there are marijuana stores all over. But before that, I don't even know where'd you'd get the stuff. Occasionally when I'd ride a train to work at 4 AM, somebody would come up and try to buy it from me; so I guess I look like a drug dealer. In states where it's illegal, do you just wander the streets at night asking people for pot, and hope it's not laced with rat poison?

I've literally never seen actual marijuana in real life before, even in a state where it's legal. So I'm not sure I buy this argument that you can't go 3 years without smoking the stuff.

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