'Hide It Hillary' mobile game banned by Apple, title like 'Punch Trump' approved • Hacker News Board

Re: 'Hide It Hillary' mobile game banned by Apple, title like 'Punch Trump' approved

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Post by dawnerd » Sat, Sep 03, 2016, 6:20 PM UTC

grej wrote: post #9

They are a private enterprise and can do what they want, but the optics aren't great. For the sake of PR they should try and maintain at least the appearance of being unbiased. Perhaps develop a single policy for politically oriented apps, and stick to it in all cases. PS - Also noticed this was flagged & removed, then restored. Very glad to see it was restored as this is a very relevant thing to be talking about in…

Honestly don't think they should allow apps like hide Hillary or punch trump. They're low value and only promote hate towards the person.

Re: 'Hide It Hillary' mobile game banned by Apple, title like 'Punch Trump' approved

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Sep 03, 2016, 6:20 PM UTC

grej wrote: post #9

They are a private enterprise and can do what they want, but the optics aren't great. For the sake of PR they should try and maintain at least the appearance of being unbiased. Perhaps develop a single policy for politically oriented apps, and stick to it in all cases. PS - Also noticed this was flagged & removed, then restored. Very glad to see it was restored as this is a very relevant thing to be talking about in…

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Re: 'Hide It Hillary' mobile game banned by Apple, title like 'Punch Trump' approved

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Post by bradleybuda » Sat, Sep 03, 2016, 6:21 PM UTC

themartorana wrote: post #6

Anyone that knows anything about the Apple App Store knows this piece is a little uninformed. 1. The two apps were probably reviewed by different people, and approvals from Apple have always been all over the place depending on the reviewer. "The independent developers said getting approved with Google took less than one hour, while Apple’s denial came after an eight-hour wait." 2. 8 hour wait? Wow. I remember when t…

You're 100% correct, the article is uninformed about normal app review processes. However, the point about Apple rejecting a satirical anti-Hillary app while approving a number of apps depicting and encouraging physical violence towards Trump stands.

IMHO, the article is flawed, and clearly from a biased perspective, but there's enough of a valid point in there for it to stand.

Re: 'Hide It Hillary' mobile game banned by Apple, title like 'Punch Trump' approved

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Post by ihuman » Sat, Sep 03, 2016, 6:23 PM UTC

The problem (if you could call it that) is that there are multiple people reviewing apps. While there are rules, each person has a different interpretation of them, which results in issues like this.

Re: 'Hide It Hillary' mobile game banned by Apple, title like 'Punch Trump' approved

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Post by grej » Sat, Sep 03, 2016, 6:23 PM UTC

dawnerd wrote: post #11

grej wrote: post #9

They are a private enterprise and can do what they want, but the optics aren't great. For the sake of PR they should try and maintain at least the appearance of being unbiased. Perhaps develop a single policy for politically oriented apps, and stick to it in all cases. PS - Also noticed this was flagged & removed, then restored. Very glad to see it was restored as this is a very relevant thing to be talking about in…

Honestly don't think they should allow apps like hide Hillary or punch trump. They're low value and only promote hate towards the person.

Yeah, I'm of two minds on it. On the one hand, it reflects the current climate and allowing both would be the more "free speechy" way to go. But on the other, I think apps that target an individual person - any individual not just a political leader - I think are exactly as you said - really low value and promoting hate. Either way they go, they should clearly stick to one policy for both sides.

Re: 'Hide It Hillary' mobile game banned by Apple, title like 'Punch Trump' approved

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Post by djrogers » Sat, Sep 03, 2016, 6:24 PM UTC

existencebox wrote: post #8

I'm quite curious about this article, less about the words, more about how it's being received. It has 43 upvotes in 41 minutes. For a rather bland subject, that's not half bad (point wise), potentially motivated by the political conflict involved, but that happens. However, in the time I've queued it in my "morning reading", I've refreshed it quite a few times and watched it flag, unflag, flag, unflag at least 5-6 r…

> There is certainly very little evidence to the claim of the article

Little evidence? The claim is that this app was rejected and Trump satire apps are allowed - what evidence are you expecting other than the existence of the Punch Trump style apps on the App Store? Do you want a letter signed by Tim Cook saying that the App Store policies are intentionally biased?

Re: 'Hide It Hillary' mobile game banned by Apple, title like 'Punch Trump' approved

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Post by mst » Sat, Sep 03, 2016, 6:24 PM UTC

themartorana wrote: post #6

Anyone that knows anything about the Apple App Store knows this piece is a little uninformed. 1. The two apps were probably reviewed by different people, and approvals from Apple have always been all over the place depending on the reviewer. "The independent developers said getting approved with Google took less than one hour, while Apple’s denial came after an eight-hour wait." 2. 8 hour wait? Wow. I remember when t…

They quoted the FBI statement directly, and ended with the point that all charges had been dropped.

Calling that a "hit piece" does not, to me, seem particularly reasonable.

Re: 'Hide It Hillary' mobile game banned by Apple, title like 'Punch Trump' approved

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Post by eli » Sat, Sep 03, 2016, 6:25 PM UTC

Never attribute to malice that which can equally be explained by carelessness.

My experience with completely nonpolitical apps strongly suggests the app approval process is very arbitrary and inconsistent across the board.

Re: 'Hide It Hillary' mobile game banned by Apple, title like 'Punch Trump' approved

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Post by TheLarch » Sat, Sep 03, 2016, 6:25 PM UTC

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Re: 'Hide It Hillary' mobile game banned by Apple, title like 'Punch Trump' approved

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Post by fenomas » Sat, Sep 03, 2016, 6:27 PM UTC

themartorana wrote: post #6

Anyone that knows anything about the Apple App Store knows this piece is a little uninformed. 1. The two apps were probably reviewed by different people, and approvals from Apple have always been all over the place depending on the reviewer. "The independent developers said getting approved with Google took less than one hour, while Apple’s denial came after an eight-hour wait." 2. 8 hour wait? Wow. I remember when t…

One suspects that the underlying story here is: "Of the dozens of political apps submitted recently, some have been accepted and some have been rejected, with no apparent rhyme or reason. Here are two."