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Re: Wagon Acquired by Box

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Post by avdempsey »

papa_bear wrote: post #4
samdalton wrote: post #3

Another great and innovative app thrown into the dust from an acquisition. They actually made working with SQL a joy.

Yeah I'm pretty bummed about this. Are there any similar locally-run apps that make it easy to get graphs from your SQL queries? I've seen a few SaaS apps like Periscope that do similar, but I'm not a fan of letting other companies load up our entire database just to make some graphs.

You might check out Redash or Caravel. They're both open source, you host them yourself, and have a bunch of dashboard and access control functionality.

Caravel in particular has some great exploration tools. You can build queries either by hand or by using visualization specific drag and drop. Caravel is getting regular updates from the AirBnB team too.

If you want more power I recommend using a Jupyter notebook and Python. There's also Rodeo which is like R Studio for Python.

Re: Wagon Acquired by Box

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Post by guessmyname »

xorgar831 wrote: post #12

what is wagon?

It used to be (or still is inside Box?) an analytics startup [1][2][3].

EDIT: Their Twitter account also gives a little bit of information: Wagon is a modern SQL editor. A better way for analysts and engineers to write queries, visualize results, and share data & charts [4].

[1] https://www.wagonhq.com/about

[2] https://www.wagonhq.com/blog/engineering-at-wagon/

[3] https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/37jwip/a/

[4] https://twitter.com/WagonHQ

Re: Wagon Acquired by Box

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Post by dkarapetyan »

What I don't get is how dropbox fell behind in this enterprise storage game. Box was a terrible product, buggy UI and all. Dropbox was a joy to use and yet somehow Box seems to be leading in the enterprise market. I don't quite get it.

Re: Wagon Acquired by Box

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Post by infinite8s »

Question for any users out there - was the valuable part of Wagon the querying/graphing capability, or the sharing part? I've been building a cross-platform desktop app (using Qt) that is basically a SQL querying tool for data analysts instead of developers (with a focus on analyzing data instead of being able to modify data). I've been trying to figure out how to price it and was a bit discouraged when I found Wagon (how do you compete with free)? Also it's tougher to do sharing of interactive charts with a desktop product (although I have ideas for being able to post static annotated charts into slack or other popular SAAS products).

Re: Wagon Acquired by Box

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Post by frisco »

dkarapetyan wrote: post #14

What I don't get is how dropbox fell behind in this enterprise storage game. Box was a terrible product, buggy UI and all. Dropbox was a joy to use and yet somehow Box seems to be leading in the enterprise market. I don't quite get it.

Enterprise sales! Enterprise is a completely different beast than consumer. Enterprise sales are 60% trust, 20% pricing, and 10% product. The language, practices and culture necessary to do well at selling to large enterprises and all of the differences in the underlying company are so different than consumer products. Enterprise is very misunderstood, even by many VCs!

Re: Wagon Acquired by Box

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Post by ljoshua »

frisco wrote: post #16
dkarapetyan wrote: post #14

What I don't get is how dropbox fell behind in this enterprise storage game. Box was a terrible product, buggy UI and all. Dropbox was a joy to use and yet somehow Box seems to be leading in the enterprise market. I don't quite get it.

Enterprise sales! Enterprise is a completely different beast than consumer. Enterprise sales are 60% trust, 20% pricing, and 10% product. The language, practices and culture necessary to do well at selling to large enterprises and all of the differences in the underlying company are so different than consumer products. Enterprise is very misunderstood, even by many VCs!

> Enterprise sales are 60% trust, 20% pricing, and 10% product.

Wow, now I know that's just anecdotal, but that feels about right, and very interesting to have written down. Thanks for that, it's good food for thought.

(Now I'm just wondering what the last 10% is... ;) )

Re: Wagon Acquired by Box

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Post by daurnimator »

ljoshua wrote: post #17
frisco wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Enterprise sales! Enterprise is a completely different beast than consumer. Enterprise sales are 60% trust, 20% pricing, and 10% product. The language, practices and culture necessary to do well at selling to large enterprises and all of the differences in the underlying company are so different than consumer products. Enterprise is very misunderstood, even by many VCs!

> Enterprise sales are 60% trust, 20% pricing, and 10% product. Wow, now I know that's just anecdotal, but that feels about right, and very interesting to have written down. Thanks for that, it's good food for thought. (Now I'm just wondering what the last 10% is... ;) )

inertia

Re: Wagon Acquired by Box

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Post by ajwaxman »

infinite8s wrote: post #15

Question for any users out there - was the valuable part of Wagon the querying/graphing capability, or the sharing part? I've been building a cross-platform desktop app (using Qt) that is basically a SQL querying tool for data analysts instead of developers (with a focus on analyzing data instead of being able to modify data). I've been trying to figure out how to price it and was a bit discouraged when I found Wagon…

Huge Wagon fan. Very sad to see it go. I loved both the sharing functionality (shared folders + being able to easily share a link) and graphing capabilities. If I had to pick one over the other I'd probably pick the graphing capabilities.

Would love for you to replicate Wagon :)

I'd be happy to pay $5-10 / month to continue to use Wagon past October

Re: Wagon Acquired by Box

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Post by karim »

frisco wrote: post #16
dkarapetyan wrote: post #14

What I don't get is how dropbox fell behind in this enterprise storage game. Box was a terrible product, buggy UI and all. Dropbox was a joy to use and yet somehow Box seems to be leading in the enterprise market. I don't quite get it.

Enterprise sales! Enterprise is a completely different beast than consumer. Enterprise sales are 60% trust, 20% pricing, and 10% product. The language, practices and culture necessary to do well at selling to large enterprises and all of the differences in the underlying company are so different than consumer products. Enterprise is very misunderstood, even by many VCs!

Which begs the question: what are the remaining 10%?
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