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With Moderate Drinking Under Fire, Alcohol Companies Go on Offensive

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Re: With Moderate Drinking Under Fire, Alcohol Companies Go on Offensive

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We need a better way to get high - alcohol is a pretty shitty drug that we mostly use because it is legal, not because it is the best. Make pot available on the same terms and see alcohol usage decline.

Even when pot becomes legal, I don't think it's going to replace alcohol. They feel different, and I like different substances for different occasions.

Especially considering how often it's anxiety-inducing. Hard to say the same for alcohol.

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We need a better way to get high - alcohol is a pretty shitty drug that we mostly use because it is legal, not because it is the best. Make pot available on the same terms and see alcohol usage decline.

Even when pot becomes legal, I don't think it's going to replace alcohol. They feel different, and I like different substances for different occasions.

They're partial substitutes, not perfect ones.

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We need a better way to get high - alcohol is a pretty shitty drug that we mostly use because it is legal, not because it is the best. Make pot available on the same terms and see alcohol usage decline.

> Make pot available on the same terms and see alcohol usage decline. Has alcohol use dropped in Washington or Colorado? I'm not sure very many people consider them interchangeable.

Anecdotally in the Denver/Boulder area I haven't seen an impact. People who drink haven't converted to pot, because - IMHO - it's been "decriminalized" for so long. At places I work we still go out for a beer after work and restaurants are generally unwilling to allow pot products as they are alcohol (that may be a corporate or regulatory thing though).

The Guardian published an article stating that alcohol consumption (specifically tax revenue) has actually gone up: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/31/alcohol-indu...

Re: With Moderate Drinking Under Fire, Alcohol Companies Go on Offensive

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I thought the criticisms were going to be different.

This isn't a popular opinion, but alcohol is extremely hazardous.

There are 88,000 alcohol-related deaths in the US each year[0]. That's more than double the total number of the ever unpopular gun-related deaths[1].

Granted, dying of cirrhosis, or getting hit by a drunk driver, or even getting beat by a drunk boyfriend doesn't have the media appeal of a crazed gun-toting redneck.

Anyway, I think people should be able to hoard all the guns and booze they want, but I have to acknowledge alcohol does have a pretty terrible cost on society.

[0] http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_S...

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