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Zika Infection May Affect Adult Brain Cells

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Re: Zika Infection May Affect Adult Brain Cells

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Guillain-Barré (normally 1 in 100,000, it's 1 out of 5k-10k with Zika ) is quite scary as well, basically you get locked inside your own body and either die or have a multi-year recovery if they identify it within the first day or two. I know two people who have gotten it in the last year: http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/local/story/2016/apr/04/n...

Re: Zika Infection May Affect Adult Brain Cells

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post #9

So, I know disrupting ecologies can have profound consequences that aren't obvious ahead of time, but let's do a thought experiment. Let's assume we have a 100% effective way to kill all mosquitoes within 18-24 months. What are the known disruptions and consequences of this? Do we have ways to combat problems due to that? What are the probable/theoretical distuptions and consequences? Do we have have to combat these?…

You only need to kill the species that bite humans (at least until others start biting humans).

There are extermination technologies being experimented with that have quite a high level of effectiveness:

http://fusion.net/story/333793/oxitec-zika-fighting-mosquito...

Re: Zika Infection May Affect Adult Brain Cells

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post #9

So, I know disrupting ecologies can have profound consequences that aren't obvious ahead of time, but let's do a thought experiment. Let's assume we have a 100% effective way to kill all mosquitoes within 18-24 months. What are the known disruptions and consequences of this? Do we have ways to combat problems due to that? What are the probable/theoretical distuptions and consequences? Do we have have to combat these?…

You don't even need to kill all mosquitos, just the ones that bite humans and carry disease. South America actually did manage to nearly eradicate Aedes aegypti, though the success was short lived.

Aedes aegypti is not even native to South America- it's African. So eliminating it from the New World can't do that much damage given that the ecosystem got along fine before it arrived.

Re: Zika Infection May Affect Adult Brain Cells

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post #5

Even without seeing headlines like this, I have felt for a while that Zika is being downplayed in the media. I remember mass hysteria over mad cow disease, bird flu, and ebola. Zika seems at least on par with these to me. This disease is so new that we really don't know how long women have to wait before they can get pregnant safely-- if ever. We know that it stays latent in semen for a long time after being infected…

I guess as Wikipedia has it the infection "often causes no or only mild symptoms." Even so it's not something you want. Personally I think they should crack on with the Oxitec GM mozzies which on balance of probabilities should cause far less problems than the disease. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/14/florida-keys...

As a point of comparison, polio is similar, the great majority of cases produce no symptoms or only minor symptoms.

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post #6

Even without seeing headlines like this, I have felt for a while that Zika is being downplayed in the media. I remember mass hysteria over mad cow disease, bird flu, and ebola. Zika seems at least on par with these to me. This disease is so new that we really don't know how long women have to wait before they can get pregnant safely-- if ever. We know that it stays latent in semen for a long time after being infected…

It's not exactly new ( first studied in 1947 https://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/zika-statement/ ), and basically spreads as quickly as any other STD ( the mosquitos that carry it typically travel no more than 400 meters http://www.who.int/denguecontrol/mosquito/en/ ).

Be that as it may, global panic relating to HIV/AIDS, Ebola, Mad Cow Disease, Bird Flu, etc. was not primarily based in scientific reason.

Consider Princess Diana shaking hands with an AIDS patient in 1991 and how big of a deal that was.

I'll admit that I don't know much about Zika outside of the few articles I've read. And I'll also admit that I'm pretty afraid from what I've read. But what I find most interesting about Zika is this sociological aspect where the soccer fans in Brazil are chanting "Ziiikaaaa" on goal kicks and it seems like we've kind of just accepted that this is going to happen. Thousands of babies have been born with abnormalities already. I'd expect more panic.

Re: Zika Infection May Affect Adult Brain Cells

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post #9

So, I know disrupting ecologies can have profound consequences that aren't obvious ahead of time, but let's do a thought experiment. Let's assume we have a 100% effective way to kill all mosquitoes within 18-24 months. What are the known disruptions and consequences of this? Do we have ways to combat problems due to that? What are the probable/theoretical distuptions and consequences? Do we have have to combat these?…

You don't even need to kill all mosquitos, just the ones that bite humans and carry disease. South America actually did manage to nearly eradicate Aedes aegypti, though the success was short lived. Aedes aegypti is not even native to South America- it's African. So eliminating it from the New World can't do that much damage given that the ecosystem got along fine before it arrived.

> Aedes aegypti is not even native to South America- it's African. So eliminating it from the New World can't do that much damage given that the ecosystem got along fine before it arrived.

Could it not have crowded out some other niche that will be left empty if they were removed?

Re: Zika Infection May Affect Adult Brain Cells

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post #9

So, I know disrupting ecologies can have profound consequences that aren't obvious ahead of time, but let's do a thought experiment. Let's assume we have a 100% effective way to kill all mosquitoes within 18-24 months. What are the known disruptions and consequences of this? Do we have ways to combat problems due to that? What are the probable/theoretical distuptions and consequences? Do we have have to combat these?…

You don't even need to kill all mosquitos, just the ones that bite humans and carry disease. South America actually did manage to nearly eradicate Aedes aegypti, though the success was short lived. Aedes aegypti is not even native to South America- it's African. So eliminating it from the New World can't do that much damage given that the ecosystem got along fine before it arrived.

> Aedes aegypti is not even native to South America- it's African. So eliminating it from the New World can't do that much damage given that the ecosystem got along fine before it arrived.

This logic may have been applicable way back when the first few Aedes aegypti made their way to the New World, but at this point, so much has changed in our New World, and we don't really know all the ecological changes that Aedes aegypti may have already caused. Perhaps, they have become an integral part of our society.

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post #9

So, I know disrupting ecologies can have profound consequences that aren't obvious ahead of time, but let's do a thought experiment. Let's assume we have a 100% effective way to kill all mosquitoes within 18-24 months. What are the known disruptions and consequences of this? Do we have ways to combat problems due to that? What are the probable/theoretical distuptions and consequences? Do we have have to combat these?…

Nature has a good article and eliminating misquotes has little ecological impact and obviously large positive impact for humans . http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100721/full/466432a.html

Re: Zika Infection May Affect Adult Brain Cells

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not exactly new ( first studied in 1947 https://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/zika-statement/ ), and basically spreads as quickly as any other STD ( the mosquitos that carry it typically travel no more than 400 meters http://www.who.int/denguecontrol/mosquito/en/ ).

Be that as it may, global panic relating to HIV/AIDS, Ebola, Mad Cow Disease, Bird Flu, etc. was not primarily based in scientific reason. Consider Princess Diana shaking hands with an AIDS patient in 1991 and how big of a deal that was. I'll admit that I don't know much about Zika outside of the few articles I've read. And I'll also admit that I'm pretty afraid from what I've read. But what I find most interesting a…

It's winter in Brazil. There aren't a lot of mosquitoes right now. A US athlete acted like a ponce over Zika. The crowds chanted Zika to make fun of her.

When I say ponce I'm talking about posting the pictures here: https://www.buzzfeed.com/bradesposito/heres-why-hope-solos-b... I'm not talking about thinking it over carefully.

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