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Re: The Cuban CDN

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Post by deegles »

roninb wrote: post #5

I wonder what the future of El Paquete Semanal will be once Cuba inevitably gets less ridiculously priced and more available internet access. As it stands, there could be a large percentage of users who don't even have NICs, as all you'd need for El Paquete Semanal is a USB port. I'm also interested in whether it's more of a loan/library service where this org has hundreds or thousands of hard drives that get loaned…

What if instead of a USB drive, it was a truck with wifi that would swing by the front of your house and rsync some files to your computer? To sign up, you'd give your address and wifi password.

Re: The Cuban CDN

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Post by tscs37 »

11MBps for 8$ a month... My ISP is ripping me off!

In all seriousness, this is amazing. Once again it proves that nobody should underestimate the bandwidth of a van full of harddrives speeding down the highway... or in this case Cubans exchanging Harddrives.

Re: The Cuban CDN

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Post by Zenfinch »

eastdakota wrote: post #4
jgrahamc wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not out of the question that we'll have a PoP in Cuba.

In fact, it's quite probable. Doubt it'll happen in 2016, but bet it will by the end of 2017.

It will be fascinating to see how fast Cuba in a post embargo-lift landscape can build up ip infrastructure, its cool that by year's end 2017 its probably good enough for a Cloudflare PoP.

(though imagine being uniquely placed to the USA along with other factors is a huge plus for building that infra).

Re: The Cuban CDN

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Post by justratsinacoat »

Awesome article! Does anyone have any further information? A few things stick in my mind:

1. FTA: "You'd need to be downloading at over 11Mbps 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to get the equivalent of El Paquete"

2. The AV update is 4 days old, the offline copy of Revolico is 3 days old

3. The article as a whole implies that El Paquete Semanal is a regularly distributed, ~850GB weekly curated samizdata

Thus: what the fuck!? It'd take me weeks to assemble this kind of thing, especially given point #1 above. Sure, a lot of this stuff could be farmed out to scrapers/sickbeard/whatever, but this level of curation plus the quick turnaround plus the distribution (how many portable 1TB drives are circulating?!) plus the download speed requirements... Who is doing this, and how? There's clearly some really great high speed connections in Cuba. Are these guys backed (or at least tolerated) by the state or something?

Re: The Cuban CDN

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Post by Alupis »

eastdakota wrote: post #4
jgrahamc wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not out of the question that we'll have a PoP in Cuba.

In fact, it's quite probable. Doubt it'll happen in 2016, but bet it will by the end of 2017.

> we'll have a PoP in Cuba

Why though?

Cloudflare doesn't have POP's in most countries, and Cuba isn't somehow very advantageous compared to having a POP in Puerto Rico, Florida, Mexico, or any of the more connected Caribbean nations.

Is it for the novelty, or am I missing some advantage of setting up infrastructure in Cuba... ?

Re: The Cuban CDN

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Post by wfunction »

justratsinacoat wrote: post #14

Awesome article! Does anyone have any further information? A few things stick in my mind: 1. FTA: "You'd need to be downloading at over 11Mbps 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to get the equivalent of El Paquete" 2. The AV update is 4 days old, the offline copy of Revolico is 3 days old 3. The article as a whole implies that El Paquete Semanal is a regularly distributed, ~850GB weekly curated samizdata Thus: what the fu…

Or you could just have 11 1Mbps connections...

Re: The Cuban CDN

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Post by walrus01 »

justratsinacoat wrote: post #14

Awesome article! Does anyone have any further information? A few things stick in my mind: 1. FTA: "You'd need to be downloading at over 11Mbps 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to get the equivalent of El Paquete" 2. The AV update is 4 days old, the offline copy of Revolico is 3 days old 3. The article as a whole implies that El Paquete Semanal is a regularly distributed, ~850GB weekly curated samizdata Thus: what the fu…

It's not like the whole 1TB is being refreshed weekly. File structure tree looks like a spanish language warez site. If I had to guess 85%+ of the disk space is taken up by video.

Re: The Cuban CDN

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Post by shklnrj »

This reminds of the LAN we had in college. We used to use the software DC++ and then students shared the files that they had downloaded. You could access almost any file at 100MBPS.Someone was sure to download the latest episode of what you wanted to watch. If someone did not, then you went on the internet. Sometimes it was fast to download the file via LAN, than to transfer a file from pen drive to the computer.

This entire thing was run by students.

Re: The Cuban CDN

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Post by walrus01 »

eastdakota wrote: post #4
jgrahamc wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not out of the question that we'll have a PoP in Cuba.

In fact, it's quite probable. Doubt it'll happen in 2016, but bet it will by the end of 2017.

One of the major things we should watch for is a Miami to Cuba submarine cable. The Miami area (and the Terremark/Verizon "NAP of the Americas" IX point/datacenter) is already the landing station for a ton of submarine cables going to latin america.

At present there are challenges at OSI layer 1 getting data into/out of Cuba, not including any government regulation/interference, just due to the lack of pipes. There's a fiber cable to Venezuela, but VZ is not very well connected internationally and there's significant challenges with any US company trying to acquire a circuit on that path (do you want to build a POP in Caracas, with what's going on there right now?)

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justratsinacoat wrote: post #14

Awesome article! Does anyone have any further information? A few things stick in my mind: 1. FTA: "You'd need to be downloading at over 11Mbps 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to get the equivalent of El Paquete" 2. The AV update is 4 days old, the offline copy of Revolico is 3 days old 3. The article as a whole implies that El Paquete Semanal is a regularly distributed, ~850GB weekly curated samizdata Thus: what the fu…

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