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Re: Cheap or free web-based tools for your web startup

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Post by bockris » Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 5:44 PM UTC

phsr wrote: post #10

How is Google App Engine? Are there any pain points one should be aware of before using it?

You mean besides lock-in?

Re: Cheap or free web-based tools for your web startup

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Post by eop » Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 5:46 PM UTC

phsr wrote: post #10

How is Google App Engine? Are there any pain points one should be aware of before using it?

No RDBMS. No SQL. No joins. That's the main adjustment for me. But after you adjust to that, it's great.

Re: Cheap or free web-based tools for your web startup

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 5:47 PM UTC

bockris wrote: post #11

phsr wrote: post #10

How is Google App Engine? Are there any pain points one should be aware of before using it?

You mean besides lock-in?

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Re: Cheap or free web-based tools for your web startup

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Post by cgrinds » Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 5:49 PM UTC

phsr wrote: post #10

How is Google App Engine? Are there any pain points one should be aware of before using it?

Cold startup sucks - it's horrendous for Java and just bad for Python.

If you have a popular app, this isn't an issue. If you don't, it hurts.

Re: Cheap or free web-based tools for your web startup

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Post by sadiq » Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 5:50 PM UTC

eop wrote: post #12

phsr wrote: post #10

How is Google App Engine? Are there any pain points one should be aware of before using it?

No RDBMS. No SQL. No joins. That's the main adjustment for me. But after you adjust to that, it's great.

I thought NoSQL was a selling point these days?

Re: Cheap or free web-based tools for your web startup

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Post by redorb » Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 5:51 PM UTC

oneplusone wrote: post #4

boundlessdreamz wrote: post #2

The madmimi website gave me a headache. Is there any site which allows me to display a text box on my site and collects the emails given and allows me to send newsletters?

Use CampaignMonitor. By far the best tool for the job. http://www.campaignmonitor.com

I agree campaignMonitor has some great analytics / at the link below you can view a good screen shot of the analytics page..

http://imgur.com/uq9zn

Re: Cheap or free web-based tools for your web startup

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Post by eop » Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 5:58 PM UTC

sadiq wrote: post #15

eop wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No RDBMS. No SQL. No joins. That's the main adjustment for me. But after you adjust to that, it's great.

I thought NoSQL was a selling point these days?

Perhaps, but the question I was responding to was about "pain points". All I was saying is if you're coming from an RDBMS background, as I am, then there are growing pains in adjusting to using BigTable. If you don't have the time or patience to make the adjustment, then this will be a pain point. Otherwise, perhaps it's a selling point.

Re: Cheap or free web-based tools for your web startup

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Post by CytokineStorm » Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 5:59 PM UTC

Wait, no Heroku? It should definitely be listed in the Price-Scalable Hosting section. Like AppEngine it's also free starting out, and super easy to scale. Plus it's all rails, so you don't even have to learn any App Engine API.

Re: Cheap or free web-based tools for your web startup

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 6:03 PM UTC

cgrinds wrote: post #14

phsr wrote: post #10

How is Google App Engine? Are there any pain points one should be aware of before using it?

Cold startup sucks - it's horrendous for Java and just bad for Python. If you have a popular app, this isn't an issue. If you don't, it hurts.

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Re: Cheap or free web-based tools for your web startup

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Post by yurylifshits » Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 6:04 PM UTC

Here is a longer list specifically for web publishers: http://publisherapps.org