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An Open Letter to Warner Bros CEO About Layoffs and Donuts-

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Post by dpark »

CamatHN wrote: post #8
slantedview wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This misses the point of the article entirely. The point was that when leadership screws up, the lower level employees suffer. No accountability at the top.

The top has to have the ability and leeway for things to go wrong so that they can take risks. To make sure they take the right risks they are stakeing a % of their pay if its in options or bonuses as well as in their reputation.

> To make sure they take the right risks they are stakeing a % of their pay if its in options or bonuses as well as in their reputation.

Did you manage to hold a straight face while you wrote that? The people at the top still walk away with millions or more when they screw up. The people at the bottom walk away with very little. Whether the risks are worth taking is a good question, but certainly the people at the top don't feel the bulk of the pain if the risks don't pay off.

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Post by thewopr »

kiba wrote: post #4
thewopr wrote: post #3

I am not an insider but wow, this really resonated with me. > We pursued a potentially great summer movie like Edge of Tomorrow and completely botched its release. Edge of Tomorrow was a pretty solid movie. I would absolutely have gone to it in the theater, but the marketing just did not connect with me. I've run into this with a number of movies now.

Edge of Tomorrow was a hollywoodized happy version of the original Japanese novel, which ended on a very bittersweet note.

Hmmm, I didn't know that. Will have to read. Thanks.

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Post by privateersman »

I think this is a symptom that the movie industry is on its way out, in much the same way as has happened to music.

They were flush with cash during the early 2000s thanks to TV and DVD. It was like a golden age with lots of studios producing unusual material.

The problem is the internet has damaged their tiered selling technique, yet their projects are still as expensive and risky.

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Post by kiba »

thewopr wrote: post #12
kiba wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Edge of Tomorrow was a hollywoodized happy version of the original Japanese novel, which ended on a very bittersweet note.

Hmmm, I didn't know that. Will have to read. Thanks.

The title is All You Need Is Kill by Hiroshi Sakurazaka for anyone who don't know.

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Post by dpitkin »

kiba wrote: post #9
skyrw wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that a bit like asking why hasn't microsoft managed to figure out "consistent bug-free software' by now.

By consistency, I mean a certain standard of quality, not that it's bug-free. There's a certain level of quality that firms like Google and Microsoft wouldn't be caught dead writing. If the same movie studio produce garbages between blockbusters, then I am wondering what's the hell wrong with their quality control process.

I might suggest that Wave and Vista are obvious projects Google and Microsoft wrote and below a standard of quality, and akin to a bad movie from WB. Google+ and Windows 8 could be considered bad sequels.

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Post by joshAg »

CamatHN wrote: post #8
slantedview wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This misses the point of the article entirely. The point was that when leadership screws up, the lower level employees suffer. No accountability at the top.

The top has to have the ability and leeway for things to go wrong so that they can take risks. To make sure they take the right risks they are stakeing a % of their pay if its in options or bonuses as well as in their reputation.

No one's arguing that they shouldn't have that leeway and ability.

They're saying it's shitty that people on the bottom get punished as a result of risks taken because of that leeway.

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Post by RCortex »

CamatHN wrote: post #8
slantedview wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This misses the point of the article entirely. The point was that when leadership screws up, the lower level employees suffer. No accountability at the top.

The top has to have the ability and leeway for things to go wrong so that they can take risks. To make sure they take the right risks they are stakeing a % of their pay if its in options or bonuses as well as in their reputation.

Fuck around or fuck up, and your compensation is only hit with a pillow. And people make excuses for how you failed at your responsibilities. Sounds nice.

If CEOs are afraid to take necessary risks because of consequences, they suck at their jobs as leaders and should be fired. CEOs need to know what they're doing, they shouldn't be given a lower bar to clear than everyone else. That they do is mindboggling.

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Post by thewopr »

privateersman wrote: post #13

I think this is a symptom that the movie industry is on its way out, in much the same way as has happened to music. They were flush with cash during the early 2000s thanks to TV and DVD. It was like a golden age with lots of studios producing unusual material. The problem is the internet has damaged their tiered selling technique, yet their projects are still as expensive and risky.

But what's interesting is that TV is having such a different trajectory (TV as in video packaged as episodes, the lines have blurred). Netflix and the like.

I often wonder if TV is winning because it has built-in sequels. If a series doesn't stick, whatever, money lost. If a new series does well, you can milk it for many many more seasons. TV vs Movies, the risk in cost is the same but the upside is much higher for TV.

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Post by jaggederest »

CamatHN wrote: post #8
slantedview wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This misses the point of the article entirely. The point was that when leadership screws up, the lower level employees suffer. No accountability at the top.

The top has to have the ability and leeway for things to go wrong so that they can take risks. To make sure they take the right risks they are stakeing a % of their pay if its in options or bonuses as well as in their reputation.

A percentage of their pay? While people further down the line lose all of their pay without having significant say? Questionable.
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