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Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#12

Bah! Arduino is way overpriced for the specs anyway. Raspberry pi and others are where it's at now. But I do think there is a massive power usage difference.

Raspberry Pi and Arduino aren't comparable...

Saying they aren't comparable isn't right either FWIW.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#13
> It's a real shame that Arduino LLC seem to have lost any of the Maker-vibe it had

What "vibe" would that be? Supply shortage with undependable lead time? Having to piece together documentation from malware infected wikis that may or may not still exist 10 days from now?

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#14

Bah! Arduino is way overpriced for the specs anyway. Raspberry pi and others are where it's at now. But I do think there is a massive power usage difference.

Look at the esp8266, it's a tenth of the price of a pi, and it has built in wifi and is seriously tiny. I'm currently using a couple around the house for controlling my lights. They come with great example code and libraries, including a webserver.

I'm thinking about doing something very similar (using the NodeMCU variant)

Do have a description of your setup?

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're comparing a microcontroller (Arudino) with a computer (pi). They aren't the same thing.

Sure they are. I mean, sure, you and I know the difference between an 8-bit micro with some friendly libraries and a 64-bit ARM SOC running a full OS. But for a lot of stuff they accomplish the exact same thing. So why not compare them by what most people do with them rather than their raw technical specs.

No, they are not. One has more in common with a FPGA, the other is literally a Linux computer. Different complexity, different skillset, different use case.

..Unless you're talking about something like the Arduino Yun, which actually runs a Linux OS. But as an example, you're probably not going to build a wifi security camera on the original device.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#17

Bah! Arduino is way overpriced for the specs anyway. Raspberry pi and others are where it's at now. But I do think there is a massive power usage difference.

Apples and oranges; two totally different products for different customers and uses.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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post #11
post #2

Cool. Now i can buy the cheap offbrand clones from Aliexpress without thinking i should have supported the actual creators.

Any recommendations?

I bought like 2 of them so far and they both were exactly as expected. The only thing to note is that you should try to find those with CPUs (are those CPUs?) similar to the ones from the original designs. Some (the super cheap ones, < $1) often are identical by design but come with some crappy CPU

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#19

Bah! Arduino is way overpriced for the specs anyway. Raspberry pi and others are where it's at now. But I do think there is a massive power usage difference.

You're comparing a microcontroller (Arudino) with a computer (pi). They aren't the same thing.

But if real CPU computer is cheaper than the microcontroller, you may start comparing it... :-)

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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post #13

> It's a real shame that Arduino LLC seem to have lost any of the Maker-vibe it had What "vibe" would that be? Supply shortage with undependable lead time? Having to piece together documentation from malware infected wikis that may or may not still exist 10 days from now?

Besides the obvious trolling occurring here, I'll answer your question on behalf of OP.

Arduino was (at one time) considered the holy grail of Makers. They had open source schematics[1] and were very easy to use while quickly prototyping something.

For Makers, once the prototype phase had finished and it was time to move to 'production', the ATMega and ATTiny chips were very easy to buy in bulk and use directly in the product, with the guarantee that the code written on the Arduino would (for all intents and purposes) work on the embedded chip.

Long story short, before they shot themselves in the foot by infighting, they had a respectable standing among tinkerers and makers.

[1] https://www.arduino.cc/en/uploads/Main/Arduino_Uno_Rev3-sche...

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