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Carnegie Mellon’s Mayhem AI Wins DARPA’s Cyber Grand Challenge

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Re: Carnegie Mellon’s Mayhem AI Wins DARPA’s Cyber Grand Challenge

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Post by cschmidt »

xtacy wrote: post #8

I tried browsing the Darpa challenge's website to know more, but I couldn't find any information. Could someone please post a link to a detailed description of the challenge?

It is basically computers playing Capture the Flag (CTF) against each other. They are given binary programs with security flaws. They need to identify the flaws automatically and develop a patch for their own system. At the same they go out to crash the other teams. Normally humans do this, but the darpa challenge was to have computer systems do it autonomously.

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Post by cschmidt »

xtacy wrote: post #8

I tried browsing the Darpa challenge's website to know more, but I couldn't find any information. Could someone please post a link to a detailed description of the challenge?

It is basically computers playing Capture the Flag (CTF) against each other. They are given binary programs with security flaws. They need to identify the flaws automatically and develop a patch for their own system. At the same they go out to crash the other teams. Normally humans do this, but the darpa challenge was to have computer systems do it autonomously.

Re: Carnegie Mellon’s Mayhem AI Wins DARPA’s Cyber Grand Challenge

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Post by q3k »

brian_herman wrote: post #4

The Mayhem is also competing in the CTF.

It's not doing that hot - currently last place, but not very far back in terms of points.

However (and impressively), it did patch at least one bug in a task (LEGIT_00007) before any other human team did.

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Post by jmgrosen »

Hey guys, member of the (currently unverified) third place team, Shellphish. If anyone has any questions, I (or another member of my team) would be glad to answer them. We'll also be giving a talk at DEF CON on Sunday after the CTF ends, where we'll be open sourcing our CRS!

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Post by nl »

xtacy wrote: post #8

I tried browsing the Darpa challenge's website to know more, but I couldn't find any information. Could someone please post a link to a detailed description of the challenge?

https://www.cybergrandchallenge.com/tech

Includes a link to the github for the challenge framework.

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Post by crypto5 »

jmgrosen wrote: post #14

Hey guys, member of the (currently unverified) third place team, Shellphish. If anyone has any questions, I (or another member of my team) would be glad to answer them. We'll also be giving a talk at DEF CON on Sunday after the CTF ends, where we'll be open sourcing our CRS!

What kind of AI was involved in your and competitors systems?

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Post by mkagenius »

jmgrosen wrote: post #14

Hey guys, member of the (currently unverified) third place team, Shellphish. If anyone has any questions, I (or another member of my team) would be glad to answer them. We'll also be giving a talk at DEF CON on Sunday after the CTF ends, where we'll be open sourcing our CRS!

Whats your view on complete automation vs human assisted automation? Which one is better to focus building on for a 5 year timeline?

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Post by Eclyps »

I thought that the production of the competition was extraordinary. Seeing everything lit up on stage was straight out of a movie (in a good way). I thought that the event itself at Defcon was super weird, though. A lot of people, myself included, assumed that the event was going to be more real-time. In reality, the servers had been competing for hours already.

That being said, huge props to these amazing teams. It was so fascinating to see how each system reacted to the same situations and then either hunkered down to protect itself or go on the offensive. Really amazing stuff.

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Post by yeukhon »

jmgrosen wrote: post #14

Hey guys, member of the (currently unverified) third place team, Shellphish. If anyone has any questions, I (or another member of my team) would be glad to answer them. We'll also be giving a talk at DEF CON on Sunday after the CTF ends, where we'll be open sourcing our CRS!

Can you explain how this particular CTF work and how the system in general work against adversary? The article said insecure code and code filled with bugs are constantly being fed to the system. I don't really get it.
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