YouTube's road to HTTPS • Hacker News Board

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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Post by TD-Linux » Mon, Aug 01, 2016, 6:48 PM UTC

dchuk wrote: post #8

What a strange thing to automatically (I assume) add to the end of these blogposts: > Sean Watson, Software Engineer, recently watched "GoPro: Fire Vortex Cannon with the Backyard Scientist." > Jon Levine, Product Manager, recently watched "Sega Saturn CD - Cracked after 20 years."

At least they didn't watch anything embarassing. My Youtube recommendations page is a dumpster fire.

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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Post by softawre » Mon, Aug 01, 2016, 6:49 PM UTC

dchuk wrote: post #8

What a strange thing to automatically (I assume) add to the end of these blogposts: > Sean Watson, Software Engineer, recently watched "GoPro: Fire Vortex Cannon with the Backyard Scientist." > Jon Levine, Product Manager, recently watched "Sega Saturn CD - Cracked after 20 years."

I highly doubt that is automatically linking videos. Click the Sega one, it's linked to a specific spot in the video.

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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Post by dublinben » Mon, Aug 01, 2016, 6:50 PM UTC

TD-Linux wrote: post #9

JBiserkov wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Attempting to inject adds? Reduce the size by applying JPEG compression? :)

When I had Sprint, they did in fact scale down and recompress all images in lower quality JPEG. Some carriers even attempt to realtime transcode video into a lower bitrate. The implementations of this are universally poor and produce rather broken files.

The more modern implementation of this (I'm looking at you, T-Mobile) is just to throttle all connections to content providers. They rely on the content providers' own adaptive streaming technology to deliver the appropriate 480p video when presented with a constrained connection.

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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Post by ashmud » Mon, Aug 01, 2016, 6:50 PM UTC

JoshTriplett wrote: post #3

> In short, some devices do not fully support modern HTTPS. I'd love to know which devices, and what "modern HTTPS" features they don't support.

On the desktop side, IE9, the last version on Vista, which is in extended support until April 11, 2017, only supports up to TLS 1.0.

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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Post by jplevine » Mon, Aug 01, 2016, 6:51 PM UTC

dchuk wrote: post #8

What a strange thing to automatically (I assume) add to the end of these blogposts: > Sean Watson, Software Engineer, recently watched "GoPro: Fire Vortex Cannon with the Backyard Scientist." > Jon Levine, Product Manager, recently watched "Sega Saturn CD - Cracked after 20 years."

Not automatically included :) I came across the Sega Saturn video a couple weeks ago from this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12074096

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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Post by niftich » Mon, Aug 01, 2016, 6:56 PM UTC

Is there an 'Unencrypted user traffic by device type' [1] chart just for YouTube traffic, as opposed to all Google services?

Specifically, are non-HTTPS connections coming from desktops, mobile/device outside of an official app, or mobile/device through an official app?

[1] https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/https?hl=en#device...

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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Post by chakalakasp » Mon, Aug 01, 2016, 7:00 PM UTC

TD-Linux wrote: post #9

JBiserkov wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Attempting to inject adds? Reduce the size by applying JPEG compression? :)

When I had Sprint, they did in fact scale down and recompress all images in lower quality JPEG. Some carriers even attempt to realtime transcode video into a lower bitrate. The implementations of this are universally poor and produce rather broken files.

I used to think it was silly to use a VPN on a cellphone not on WiFi. Not these days, not so much.

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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Post by mholt » Mon, Aug 01, 2016, 7:03 PM UTC

coob wrote: post #2

> We found that HTTPS improved quality of experience on most clients: by ensuring content integrity, we virtually eliminated many types of streaming errors Wow, what were carriers doing to the streams?!

I grew up in rural Iowa with a poor Internet connection (satellite) that dropped packets if there were thick clouds, any snow or rain, even wind sometimes. Integrity checks would have helped a lot.

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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Post by munificent » Mon, Aug 01, 2016, 7:13 PM UTC

TD-Linux wrote: post #11

dchuk wrote: post #8

What a strange thing to automatically (I assume) add to the end of these blogposts: > Sean Watson, Software Engineer, recently watched "GoPro: Fire Vortex Cannon with the Backyard Scientist." > Jon Levine, Product Manager, recently watched "Sega Saturn CD - Cracked after 20 years."

At least they didn't watch anything embarassing. My Youtube recommendations page is a dumpster fire.

TD-Linux: Hacker News Commenter - Last watched "Relaxing Background Videos Volume IIV: 4 Hours of a Peaceful Dumpster Fire (with sound)".

Re: YouTube's road to HTTPS

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Post by dchuk » Mon, Aug 01, 2016, 7:18 PM UTC

jplevine wrote: post #15

dchuk wrote: post #8

What a strange thing to automatically (I assume) add to the end of these blogposts: > Sean Watson, Software Engineer, recently watched "GoPro: Fire Vortex Cannon with the Backyard Scientist." > Jon Levine, Product Manager, recently watched "Sega Saturn CD - Cracked after 20 years."

Not automatically included :) I came across the Sega Saturn video a couple weeks ago from this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12074096

Ah interesting. So is this just something you guys do for fun at the end of your posts? Great example of dogfooding, especially coming from the big guys :)