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Re: Barbie Computer Engineer

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Wow. It's amazing, she looks just like every women engineer I've ever worked with. Especially the Bluetooth headset. Seriously, does this do anything to advance the position of women in software engineering?

I wouldn’t worry, other careers aren’t doing that much better :) http://shop.mattel.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3882807

Re: Barbie Computer Engineer

#12
post #8

Wow. It's amazing, she looks just like every women engineer I've ever worked with. Especially the Bluetooth headset. Seriously, does this do anything to advance the position of women in software engineering?

Nothing would do more for women in engineering than having more well known female engineers. Social proof is a strong thing.

But until we have more of that, cultural items like Barbie might help to bootstrap the process.

I agree that it's a distant second, but it's better than nothing at all.

Re: Barbie Computer Engineer

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post #12
post #8

Wow. It's amazing, she looks just like every women engineer I've ever worked with. Especially the Bluetooth headset. Seriously, does this do anything to advance the position of women in software engineering?

Nothing would do more for women in engineering than having more well known female engineers. Social proof is a strong thing. But until we have more of that, cultural items like Barbie might help to bootstrap the process. I agree that it's a distant second, but it's better than nothing at all.

I agree that it's a distant second, but it's better than nothing at all.

I'm not sure. Suppose the situation was reversed and there were few men software engineers. I'm not sure having a super handsome, muscle ripped man wearing designer clothing would have been an inspiration to me.

Re: Barbie Computer Engineer

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post #8

Wow. It's amazing, she looks just like every women engineer I've ever worked with. Especially the Bluetooth headset. Seriously, does this do anything to advance the position of women in software engineering?

I think so.

This talk by Pamela Fox should offer some insight: http://igniteshow.com/videos/im-barbie-girl-cs-world

Re: Barbie Computer Engineer

#16
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing would do more for women in engineering than having more well known female engineers. Social proof is a strong thing. But until we have more of that, cultural items like Barbie might help to bootstrap the process. I agree that it's a distant second, but it's better than nothing at all.

I agree that it's a distant second, but it's better than nothing at all. I'm not sure. Suppose the situation was reversed and there were few men software engineers. I'm not sure having a super handsome, muscle ripped man wearing designer clothing would have been an inspiration to me.

Right, but a cartoon about an action hero nurse who goes on exciting adventures might open you to the possibility that this was a career for men, too.

Re: Barbie Computer Engineer

#17

Very interesting, although I'm not sure what to make of her glasses; are they, like, so geek-chic-coolacious?

Its strange, they need to strike a balance. On one side, they need to use enough stereotypes to ensure that everyone gets the idea they are going for. On the other hand, if they use too many stereotypes they will get angry letters.

I'm not sure they have struck the balance correctly, but my guess is that is what they are going for.

Re: Barbie Computer Engineer

#18
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing would do more for women in engineering than having more well known female engineers. Social proof is a strong thing. But until we have more of that, cultural items like Barbie might help to bootstrap the process. I agree that it's a distant second, but it's better than nothing at all.

I agree that it's a distant second, but it's better than nothing at all. I'm not sure. Suppose the situation was reversed and there were few men software engineers. I'm not sure having a super handsome, muscle ripped man wearing designer clothing would have been an inspiration to me.

At the risk of sounding sexist, different things would appeal to little girls and little boys. Your analogy is too exact, which is what is causing the difficulty.

Not to say this will inspire little girls, I have no idea at all.

Re: Barbie Computer Engineer

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Wow. It's amazing, she looks just like every women engineer I've ever worked with. Especially the Bluetooth headset. Seriously, does this do anything to advance the position of women in software engineering?

Why do we need to insist that every profession should be evenly divided between men and women? Wouldn't it be denial of differences that we know exist? How much of my wife's decision to become a psychologist comes from a perception that she couldn't be a mathematician or a physicist and how much comes from her intellectual pursuits? How much from my decision to become an engineer stem from culture and how much comes from "the knack"?

When I graduated (almost 20 years ago) there were about 10% women in my class. When my wife graduated, there were 5% men in her class. Assuming there are no cultural barriers against men, wouldn't that indicate professional choices stem, at least a little, from gender?

I am not saying there are no cultural barriers, but I am asking when and where it is too much.

I am not sure what purpose a computer engineer Barbie serves beyond selling a few more dolls to girls who would be more interested in Legos than dolls.

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