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Chinese satellite is one giant step for the quantum internet

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Re: Chinese satellite is one giant step for the quantum internet

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The original Nature article is here: http://www.nature.com/news/chinese-satellite-is-one-giant-st... This is a reprint.

Thanks, we updated the link from http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/chinese-satellite-..., which pointed to this.

Re: Chinese satellite is one giant step for the quantum internet

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So what if someone decided to DOS quantum communications by spying on all of them? You don't need to be successful at deciphering the communications; you just need to tamper with many of them to make a whole bunch untrusted, and eventually others stop trusting the whole channel because most messages have false interception positives.

Re: Chinese satellite is one giant step for the quantum internet

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So what if someone decided to DOS quantum communications by spying on all of them? You don't need to be successful at deciphering the communications; you just need to tamper with many of them to make a whole bunch untrusted, and eventually others stop trusting the whole channel because most messages have false interception positives.

Exactly what I was thinking, if it's easy to tell they've been intercepted by a third party that infers it's possible to do it so what's to stop a DOS attack making it useless?

Re: Chinese satellite is one giant step for the quantum internet

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Does speed of communicate with entangled photons travel faster than speed of light?

For example if we have the device that encode/decode voice with entangled photons and put that on Moon, Mars, does that form of communication has any delay like normal electronic communication would?

Re: Chinese satellite is one giant step for the quantum internet

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So what if someone decided to DOS quantum communications by spying on all of them? You don't need to be successful at deciphering the communications; you just need to tamper with many of them to make a whole bunch untrusted, and eventually others stop trusting the whole channel because most messages have false interception positives.

Exactly what I was thinking, if it's easy to tell they've been intercepted by a third party that infers it's possible to do it so what's to stop a DOS attack making it useless?

Right. The only difference between that and what we have now is the ability to detect tampering.

Re: Chinese satellite is one giant step for the quantum internet

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Does speed of communicate with entangled photons travel faster than speed of light? For example if we have the device that encode/decode voice with entangled photons and put that on Moon, Mars, does that form of communication has any delay like normal electronic communication would?

No, it doesn't see the No Communication theorem. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem

Re: Chinese satellite is one giant step for the quantum internet

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So what if someone decided to DOS quantum communications by spying on all of them? You don't need to be successful at deciphering the communications; you just need to tamper with many of them to make a whole bunch untrusted, and eventually others stop trusting the whole channel because most messages have false interception positives.

Exactly what I was thinking, if it's easy to tell they've been intercepted by a third party that infers it's possible to do it so what's to stop a DOS attack making it useless?

> if it's easy to tell they've been intercepted by a third party that infers it's possible to do it so

This is a logical fallacy. Furthermore, it says nothing about how difficult a DOS attack would be to perform.

Re: Chinese satellite is one giant step for the quantum internet

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> Eventually, quantum teleportation in space could even allow researchers to combine photons from satellites to make a distributed telescope with an effective aperture the size of Earth — and enormous resolution. “You could not just see planets,” says Kwiat, “but in principle read licence plates on Jupiter’s moons.” Uh, what? What does entangled photons have to do with interferometry-based astronomy? Can somebody exp…

It lets you bypass some classical limits. It's a well known idea. For example, John Preskill mentioned entangled telescopes in a non-technical talk back in February [1].

A specific case is "NOON" states [2]:

> NOON states are an important concept in quantum metrology and quantum sensing for their ability to make precision phase measurements when used in an optical interferometer.

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Here's an example that doesn't exactly use entanglement, but does use quantum stuff to give you the general flavor. Suppose you have an optical setup like this:

          B
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          v
    A --> ◩ -----> D1
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          v
          D2
When a photon is emitted from A, or B, it passes through a beam splitter then continues on to the two detectors and triggers one of them. If the detectors are classical, then there's no way for you to distinguish whether A or B emitted the photon. Both are a 50/50 split. But if the detectors can store their readings at various times as quantum information and keep that information coherent, then you can bring the stored qubits together, simulate un-applying the beam splitter, and voila! The same basic idea applies to telescopes: photons from different sources spread out in slightly different ways, and we can undo some of that spreading with quantum computation.

1: https://youtu.be/lN8zT_Yk5sg?t=3m58s

2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOON_state

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