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How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by ethanbond »

cup wrote: post #10
erlehmann_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just never – ever – visit UAE again.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

There's not even a way to frame a disagreement. Your statement is just intellectually dishonest. You can die obeying the laws anywhere as a person of any race.

America has problems with racial violence, but your comment indicates a total disconnect from reality in pretty much every way.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by nfd »

cup wrote: post #10
erlehmann_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just never – ever – visit UAE again.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

I'd still stay away if I were evilsocket.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by erlehmann_ »

cup wrote: post #10
erlehmann_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just never – ever – visit UAE again.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

Referring to racial discrimination in the west as reaction to allegations of human rights abuse is a quite old technique: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes

Edit: The rhetorical device is called a “whataboutism”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism. The fallacy involved is called “to quoque” – a special case of an “ad hominem” argument, i.e. attacking the speaker and not the content. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by bowmessage »

xyzzy4 wrote: post #9

I'm pretty sure the UAE is obsessed with spying. Personal anecdote: I once dated a girl who's the daughter of a high ranking official (while she was in the US), and the government spied on her text messages and forced her to break up with me. At least according to her.

"It's not you, it's the UAE government..."

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by tome »

cup wrote: post #10
erlehmann_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just never – ever – visit UAE again.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

Better not get raped: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23381448

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by hueving »

cup wrote: post #10
erlehmann_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just never – ever – visit UAE again.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

The chances of you dieing from law enforcement acting in a racist manner are vanishingly small and it is still illegal.

The uae condones killing people for being gay as a matter of policy. Don't expect much more than downvotes when you attempt to portray as the US being worse in that comparison.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by benologist »

cup wrote: post #10
erlehmann_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just never – ever – visit UAE again.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

Indonesia banned their women from working in the UAE and 20 of their neighbors because of the abuse, maiming and killing by their employers and judicial systems.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/06/asia/indonesia-migrant-wor...

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by JabavuAdams »

cup wrote: post #10
erlehmann_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just never – ever – visit UAE again.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

I am disgusted by the race and policing problems in the US, but you have to have some perspective.

I've never had a problem as a half-black Canadian business traveler. That doesn't mean I'm not anxious.

All though the US may legitimately seem callous and murderous to those on the sharp end of its foreign policy, there are a whole lot of Americans who take this freedom thing seriously. More important, there is a culture of free speech and of challenging government.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by moptar »

cup wrote: post #10
erlehmann_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just never – ever – visit UAE again.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

The UAE really does have a low crime rate. The people being disappeared, flogged, etc are typically breaking the law. We in the west might not agree with those laws, but they're still written laws that you can simply avoid breaking to keep yourself safe.

The same goes in any country. They all have different laws. You can be convicted for buying counterfeit clothes in Italy, Having sex with a 17 year old in the US (despite it being legal in the UK), Possessing certain types of hand-drawn pornography in Australia (despite it being legal in the US), Posting threatening messages on Facebook in the US, downloading music from the internet in the US.

Re: How the United Arab Emirates Intelligence Tried to Hire Me to Spy on Its People

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Post by enraged_camel »

hueving wrote: post #16
cup wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like the UAE. As long as you don't break their laws the experience is fine. To be honest, I'm more frightened of going to America as a non-white person where even obeying the laws can result in death. Edit: If you disagree with my post please add to the conversation rather than just down-voting.

The chances of you dieing from law enforcement acting in a racist manner are vanishingly small and it is still illegal. The uae condones killing people for being gay as a matter of policy. Don't expect much more than downvotes when you attempt to portray as the US being worse in that comparison.

The difference of course is that one can hide the fact that one is gay. It's not so easy to hide that one is black.
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