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Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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I find it a bit ironic that after their very aggressive forced update practices [1][2], they're now gonna charge people for it. [1] http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-pays-woman-10000-over-for... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4mcdon/i_live_i...

They were always going to charge for it. The first time it was announced they stated it was going to be free to upgrade for the first year.

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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I'm still so undecided whether to upgrade from Windows 7 to 10. On the one hand a free upgrade to the latest OS is so very tempting, but then I read about how there is no privacy, people calling the installation malware, and the ugly flat UI look. Not to mention does it push that basic tiles screen from Windows 8 in your face? The one that is meant for a tablet/phone, and has no place on a desktop? I wonder if I'm go…

Unless you decide to move to Linux/OSX, would recommend you to migrate to Windows 10.

You can stop lots of upload by disabling Cortana and other cloud features, but you can't be 100% sure of what data is leaving your system. On other hand with popularity of cloud services and mobile sending all data back home, overall privacy feels like a lost cause.

Win 10 gives substantial performance improvements, new features and also developer experience is so much improved. Most the kinks of UI are sorted out, and it feels much more polished and at home on a laptop.

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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I'm still so undecided whether to upgrade from Windows 7 to 10. On the one hand a free upgrade to the latest OS is so very tempting, but then I read about how there is no privacy, people calling the installation malware, and the ugly flat UI look. Not to mention does it push that basic tiles screen from Windows 8 in your face? The one that is meant for a tablet/phone, and has no place on a desktop? I wonder if I'm go…

You are already missing out from games released on the windows store. Most from microsoft studios. Gears of War 4 coming out for Windows 10 only

The Windows store is the worst App Store experience I've ever had. I bought an Xbox Elite controller ($150) and wireless dongle ($25) to use it with Win10, since it doesn't use Bluetooth, with is a big part of why I got it (DS4 controller was having major issues for me in an apartment, I'm guessing because 2.4ghz is so crazy overcrowded here -- I can't get a solid 802.11AC or N signal across a 1-bedroom apartment here).

The controller has a settings app, which is ONLY available through the windows store. This download failed many many times with error codes (why MS uses those when it's not DOS days anymore boggles my mind) which led nowhere useful online. After seriously hours of tinkering with registry settings, powershell to remove and reinstall the Windows store program (not a normal program you can add or remove, but more like a windows "component", like Cortana, which you can't completely remove without breaking the start menu...get ClassicShell and it might work). I finally got it working with a combination of the CCleaner registry repair tool + tweaking.com Windows Repair, using "completely reset Windows store" IIRC.

Why is it that with Linux, you can do the equivalent of swapping the engine while you're driving down the freeway without a hiccup, while in Windows, changing a flat tire requires removing the transmission and trying random screws you find on the side of the road to put it back together?

Terrible experience in all, and in my hours of researching trying to get this stupid thing working, I found that I was very much not alone in my Windows store problems. I would personally never spend money on the Windows store, since it's proven itself to be a huge piece of junk.

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee. I will either continue using Windows 8, or replace my current system with Linux entirely. If I didn't need to use VS and some Adobe software, I would already have gotten rid of Windows. But, even though I would probably like a lot of what Windows 10 has to offer, I will never, ever voluntarily upgrade…

And because upgraded versions of Windows suffer from extreme bloat, instability, and weird random issues that you can typically not fix without a clean reinstall anyway.

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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post #4

I find it a bit ironic that after their very aggressive forced update practices [1][2], they're now gonna charge people for it. [1] http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-pays-woman-10000-over-for... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4mcdon/i_live_i...

That's how you get the goodies holdouts. Do it now or pay 120$¥€...

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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You can lock-in your upgrade eligibility w/o actually installing Windows 10.

The WinToUSB tool (http://www.easyuefi.com/wintousb/) can create a bootable Windows 10 USB thumb-drive (or hard disk drive, which is much faster). You boot from this drive to lock-in your entitlement w/o actually having to upgrade to Windows 10. (You must use the Windows 10 "1511" update to do this. The earlier Windows 10 version won't activate w/ a Windows 7/8/8.1 product key.)

Create and boot from a Windows 10 thumb-drive and use the "Activate Windows" functionality with your existing Windows 7/8.1 key. This will lock-in that PC's Windows 10 entitlement w/ Microsoft's servers. No changes are made to your existing hard disk drive.

If you're paranoid like me, you can even disconnect your hard disk drive while you perform this procedure to ensure no changes are made.

I validated the "digital entitlement" to install Windows 10 after performing this procedure on a PC. I put a clean hard disk drive in it, installed Windows 10 from scratch, skipped entering the product key during install, and found that the machine was "Activated with a digital entitlement" after installation completed.

Re: Windows 10 upgrades will cost $119 after July 29, Win 10 on 300M devices

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post #7

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee. I will either continue using Windows 8, or replace my current system with Linux entirely. If I didn't need to use VS and some Adobe software, I would already have gotten rid of Windows. But, even though I would probably like a lot of what Windows 10 has to offer, I will never, ever voluntarily upgrade…

And because upgraded versions of Windows suffer from extreme bloat, instability, and weird random issues that you can typically not fix without a clean reinstall anyway.

Is this from your own personal experience? I am yet to experience any issues after upgrading. Aside from removing the invasive 'extras', I have had no problems whatsoever.
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