Sewbots =~ mechanical loom?
As sewbots threaten Asia's sweatshops, we need to decide who will benefit
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Re: As sewbots threaten Asia's sweatshops, we need to decide who will benefit
#12https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iudSnw--Y8
Automated rows of buttonholes and overlocking simple edges? Done in the late 1980s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk3kNnHZdl0
How much slower can you go?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBLEx-WaF9A
Pocket sewing. Again, done in the late 1980s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSPb44jxA6M
Notice the video quality? Most of those machines use regular manufacturing automation techniques and seem to be designed in the early 1990s. They are not adaptable to different patterns/hems/collars/pockets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GUhlfjqQmQ
This one is actually not bad.
There was a lot of development in automated sewing in the 1980s that was abandoned as a result of American and European apparel manufacturing collapsing and all the work being outsourced to Asian countries and Mexico.
I have not seen any robots that can do overlock or coverstitch of shirts, dresses or tights at full speed. Until you have that, Asian apparel factories are not going anywhere.
It is still not clear how sophisticated and cheap cut and sew automation has to get in order to make it cost effective as a capital expenditure. For example textiles was already a very automated field in the 1980s but US companies found out the hard way that capital expenditures for increasing automation was not worth it: http://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1985.html
The one area of apparel manufacturing that does look like it will be fully automated (by definition) is complete garment knitting. The kinds of apparel it is useful for is sportswear, tights (thank you Lululemon for convincing women that tights are pants, sometimes it makes walking down the street that much more enjoyable), and certain kinds of dresses and sweaters.
Re: As sewbots threaten Asia's sweatshops, we need to decide who will benefit
#13This is a moral dichotomy that's been around for ages and I have yet to see a satisfactory answer on: are sweatshops evil because the workers are grossly underpaid and work in terrible conditions, or are they good because they're better than nothing and people will apparently starve to death otherwise? Who should bear the responsibility of that decision? The workers? The governments of the workers? The governments of…
it is a false dichotomy for many reasons. One of them - the most basic one - is that we have high productivity enough in the developed world to not allow former sweatshops workers to starve.
Re: As sewbots threaten Asia's sweatshops, we need to decide who will benefit
#14Re: As sewbots threaten Asia's sweatshops, we need to decide who will benefit
#15Can someone point to any actual sewing robots that would make this question not a hypothetical? I just searched Youtube and these videos came up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iudSnw--Y8 Automated rows of buttonholes and overlocking simple edges? Done in the late 1980s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk3kNnHZdl0 How much slower can you go? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBLEx-WaF9A Pocket sewing. Again, done in…
(They're not pants, either, as far as I'm concerned, but I'm more likely to buy a women's top from ThinkGeek than Lululemon so I'm a bit outside their target market.)
Re: As sewbots threaten Asia's sweatshops, we need to decide who will benefit
#16This is a moral dichotomy that's been around for ages and I have yet to see a satisfactory answer on: are sweatshops evil because the workers are grossly underpaid and work in terrible conditions, or are they good because they're better than nothing and people will apparently starve to death otherwise? Who should bear the responsibility of that decision? The workers? The governments of the workers? The governments of…
One common answer -- and part of the reason why capitalism [0] has basically been replaced by the modern mixed economy (which, confusingly, is often called "capitalism", though its not really, being more of a synthesis between the thesis of 19th century capitalism and its antithesis in 19th century socialism) everywhere in the developed world since at least the middle of the last century -- is that sweatshops are evil for the first reason, and capitalism is evil for the second reason.
[0] the 19th Century system for which the term was coined.
Re: As sewbots threaten Asia's sweatshops, we need to decide who will benefit
#17All this seems to come from one startup, Softwear Automation, which has just some lab demos and can't put a whole garment together.[2]
First of all, the textile industry has been mechanized for a long time. It was the first industry to mechanize, over 200 years ago. Everything from picking to weaving was mechanized in the developed world by 1940 or so. Cutting and sewing are now semi-automatic, and slowly going automatic.
If you've never seen a modern loom, here's one in action at a trade show.[3] Here's a working textile factory.[4] The looms pretty much run themselves. Note how few people are in the textile factory. Even third world countries have this technology. Low labor costs cannot beat a 1000RPM Toyota jet loom.
Sewing has advanced to the semi-automated stage. There are lots of machines where a human lines up the fabric and the machine does the rest.[5] The main remaining problem is handling and placing fabric automatically. The T-shirt and jeans manufacturers still haven't solved that problem, though they're getting close.
Production of simple shapes such as towels and sheets is almost totally automated. Here's a factory in Bangladesh. Massive machines, few people.[6]
Summary: most of textile automation has already happened. The last step, sewing of complex garments, is the only part that hasn't been automated yet. Expect T-shirt and jeans production to go full auto in the next decade.
[1] http://www.ilo.org/public/english/dialogue/actemp/whatwedo/a... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA96-WX-oXc#t=163.352979 [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl2rmup2dVY [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCcZW91Ub38 [5] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJw6oMwuJ94 [6] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXiEU1Dhc9M
Re: As sewbots threaten Asia's sweatshops, we need to decide who will benefit
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's get rid of the factories for cars, silicon, and electronics while we are at it. Efficiency is not conducive to jobs and prosperity. Workers must unite to protect livelihoods! (end sarcasm).
Or we could keep the factories, accept unemployment as a result of technical progress, realize that the total amount of goods created has not diminished at all and stop tieing the right to consume to participation in the production process. The "human in the production process" paradigm is doomed to fail as technology progresses anyway.
Re: As sewbots threaten Asia's sweatshops, we need to decide who will benefit
#19I appreciate most of your comment, but really don't appreciate the aside in your last paragraph.
Also important to note is the sewing process required for leggings - coverstitch of very stretchy knit fabric - is something that requires a lot of sewing machine operator skill and is difficult to automate.
Re: As sewbots threaten Asia's sweatshops, we need to decide who will benefit
#20Can someone point to any actual sewing robots that would make this question not a hypothetical? I just searched Youtube and these videos came up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iudSnw--Y8 Automated rows of buttonholes and overlocking simple edges? Done in the late 1980s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk3kNnHZdl0 How much slower can you go? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBLEx-WaF9A Pocket sewing. Again, done in…
Leaving aside the objectification in that sentence (not because its not problematic, just because other than acknowledging its existence there isn't a lot to say about it), women have been treating leggings as pants for considerably longer then Lululemon has existed. (Though Lululemon was involved in -- how much spurring and how much just benefitting from is probably debatable -- the most recent resurgence in popularity of that.)