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Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win

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Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win

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Post by uola »

criley2 wrote: post #7

Is anyone surprised that Google didn't come from Europe, and the next one isn't either? Good for Europe. Go out there and extract that pound of flesh from the foreign company and show domestics what a powerful government regulator looks like, show them that their business is better started in another country. Is what it is. Hope the tax revenue offsets the lack of innovation and talent flight. But I think Google News…

We already have "sub-standard foreign technology" from US companies. China that has excluded much US companies are doing much better than Europe in term of domestic services. Other than that your comment is troll level.

Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win

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Post by ythl »

criley2 wrote: post #7

Is anyone surprised that Google didn't come from Europe, and the next one isn't either? Good for Europe. Go out there and extract that pound of flesh from the foreign company and show domestics what a powerful government regulator looks like, show them that their business is better started in another country. Is what it is. Hope the tax revenue offsets the lack of innovation and talent flight. But I think Google News…

> Is anyone surprised that Google didn't come from Europe, and the next one isn't either?

Disruptive/innovative startups require an "ask for forgiveness" mentality, and not a "ask for permission" mentality which Europe tries so hard to cultivate.

Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win

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Post by thesehands »

Shivetya wrote: post #3

I am not a fan of the "Right to be forgotten" but I am an even less happy with the idea that just because they are so good are providing searching that somehow they aren't allowed to favor their own interests. Are we to treat them as a utility or such simply because they spent the time and effort to become so good?

It is such a strange argument from the EU. The strongest form of Tall Poppy syndrome.

Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win

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Post by noobiemcfoob »

criley2 wrote: post #7

Is anyone surprised that Google didn't come from Europe, and the next one isn't either? Good for Europe. Go out there and extract that pound of flesh from the foreign company and show domestics what a powerful government regulator looks like, show them that their business is better started in another country. Is what it is. Hope the tax revenue offsets the lack of innovation and talent flight. But I think Google News…

Don't gloss over the healthy number of Europeans who are (rightfully) concerned about the societal impact. I'm not arguing that there aren't a large number of wealthy and powerful interested parties doing much as you say, but they're aided by normal people interested in shaping a healthy society. It's the same problem in the US; we just don't have as large of a socialism bent.

Regardless, the effect is the same. With policies like "Right to be forgotten" and publicized attacks on the posterchild for innovation, "the next Google" certainly won't be European.

Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win

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Post by sgift »

criley2 wrote: post #7

Is anyone surprised that Google didn't come from Europe, and the next one isn't either? Good for Europe. Go out there and extract that pound of flesh from the foreign company and show domestics what a powerful government regulator looks like, show them that their business is better started in another country. Is what it is. Hope the tax revenue offsets the lack of innovation and talent flight. But I think Google News…

> Are Europeans not upset that they're being forced into sub-standard foreign technology by their government for which they have no superior domestic alternative, also suppressing domestic innovation as innovators seek greener regulatory pasture, all in the name of today's tax revenue?

Not really, Europeans usually understand the problems of allowing an incumbent in one market to use its position to get control of another market. If the price to pay is slightly less 'innovation' (Whatever that means in this context), that's a price to pay.

Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win

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Post by criley2 »

rufus42 wrote: post #10
criley2 wrote: post #7

Is anyone surprised that Google didn't come from Europe, and the next one isn't either? Good for Europe. Go out there and extract that pound of flesh from the foreign company and show domestics what a powerful government regulator looks like, show them that their business is better started in another country. Is what it is. Hope the tax revenue offsets the lack of innovation and talent flight. But I think Google News…

I don't think Europeans care or have to care. If it looks different, there will be other StartUps/innovations for the missing pieces. Here are many sub-search sites which doesn't deliver like Google, but are famous because they are more ethical. The question is: Is it real innovation or just an addiction for everything new and shiny.

My comment is troll level? I consider European regulators behavior to be "troll level", asking for the troll tax :)

Guess it's all about perspective.

Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win

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Post by k-mcgrady »

criley2 wrote: post #7

Is anyone surprised that Google didn't come from Europe, and the next one isn't either? Good for Europe. Go out there and extract that pound of flesh from the foreign company and show domestics what a powerful government regulator looks like, show them that their business is better started in another country. Is what it is. Hope the tax revenue offsets the lack of innovation and talent flight. But I think Google News…

>> "Are Europeans not upset"

I'm happy the regulators are not allowing a huge multi-national business to abuse its power. I'm happy that, to some extent, regulators are trying to make sure large foreign tech companies respect my privacy. If that means we lose Google I think you're overestimating how big of a deal that would be. I use DDG for search, iCloud for email/calendar/contacts, Safari as my desktop browser, BBC for my news, Amazon for my shopping. I don't need Google - it needs me.

Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win

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Post by pjmlp »

criley2 wrote: post #7

Is anyone surprised that Google didn't come from Europe, and the next one isn't either? Good for Europe. Go out there and extract that pound of flesh from the foreign company and show domestics what a powerful government regulator looks like, show them that their business is better started in another country. Is what it is. Hope the tax revenue offsets the lack of innovation and talent flight. But I think Google News…

No, I am upset that Europe is so dependent on foreign technology, region limited from US companies on online content and we are forced to make more data available than we should.

Re: Europe Is Going After Google Hard, and Google May Not Win

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Post by cocotino »

criley2 wrote: post #7

Is anyone surprised that Google didn't come from Europe, and the next one isn't either? Good for Europe. Go out there and extract that pound of flesh from the foreign company and show domestics what a powerful government regulator looks like, show them that their business is better started in another country. Is what it is. Hope the tax revenue offsets the lack of innovation and talent flight. But I think Google News…

Are you European? In that case you'd know European corporations and businesses don't have a preferential treatment at all.

You should see how the European Union treats European telcos for example.

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