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David Cameron announces resignation

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Re: David Cameron announces resignation

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Post by PietdeVries »

jkelsey wrote: post #4

Wow. A new Prime Minister and a new President within about a month of each other. At this point though, it doesn't seem like the former will matter much anymore. I hope this shit hole of a year turns around for the second half.

And so it begins...

If a Brexit-fanatic like Boris somehow gets hold of the UK, and Trump does the same in the US, we'll be looking back at "those good old days prior to June 2016" in no time... The world-economy will get more introvert, like the "me first" kids at school who don't care about the rest. And that will be the fuel of the upcoming unrest in the rest of the world...

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Post by m_mueller »

berkut wrote: post #9
dogma1138 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Labour voters voted predominantly to to leave in this referendum more so than the conservatives.

That explains the result of the referendum, not the agreeing to it in the first place.

As a Swiss this argument kind of baffles me. Governing according to the people's will should be the norm in a democracy, not some kind of strategic play.

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Post by x5n1 »

gonzo41 wrote: post #10

So today Britain cripples it own economy for nothing. But hey, no more Cameron!. I call it evens.

The economy is not everything. I know most people including leaders these days think all political decisions should be made keeping the economy in mind, and that's the most important thing. But I don't think this to be the case. Sovereignty and the right for people to make the rules that govern them are just as important if not more important than the economy.

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

m_mueller wrote: post #12
berkut wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That explains the result of the referendum, not the agreeing to it in the first place.

As a Swiss this argument kind of baffles me. Governing according to the people's will should be the norm in a democracy, not some kind of strategic play.

Exactly. If the majority want out then we should come out - and I say that as a Remain voter. Really interested to see what the future has in store. Thankfully us tech people should weather it better than most.

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Post by simonswords82 »

gonzo41 wrote: post #10

So today Britain cripples it own economy for nothing. But hey, no more Cameron!. I call it evens.

There has been so much scaremongering in the UK press that the markets are now reacting accordingly.

Ultimately trade deals are important not just to the UK but to the countries it trades with. People in power will make deals happen because they have to.

There's going to be some short term pain - but ultimately everything will balance out.

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Post by aidos »

dogma1138 wrote: post #5
berkut wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And he agreed to this to get UKIP votes in last year's election. Admittedly the pressure was building from UKIP (and eurosceptic tories), but this is very unlikely to be in Britain's interests IMO.

Labour voters voted predominantly to to leave in this referendum more so than the conservatives.

What's the source for that? Not challenging you but I'd be interested to see a party breakdown.

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Post by raverbashing »

m_mueller wrote: post #12
berkut wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That explains the result of the referendum, not the agreeing to it in the first place.

As a Swiss this argument kind of baffles me. Governing according to the people's will should be the norm in a democracy, not some kind of strategic play.

Yes. Because you're thinking like a Swiss

Especially thinking that all decisions will be calm, collected and will result from evaluation of all sides

Most people will base a vote on false facts, spite and stuff like "following their heart"

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Post by actuator »

lossolo wrote: post #2

I just watched his talk. He lost. He fought that he can avoid crack in his party and anti-eu members will be pleased if he make this move - referendum. Then he thought he will get what he wants from EU and then all citizens will vote remain. He was wrong on all this points. He is the biggest looser in this situation and he really knows it.

With emerging talk of Irish unification and Scottish independence after the referendum, some legacy he is going to leave behind.
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