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California's skyrocketing housing costs, taxes prompt exodus of residents

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Re: California's skyrocketing housing costs, taxes prompt exodus of residents

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Post by encoderer »

up_and_up wrote: post #4
overcast wrote: post #2

It's unfortunate, California is such a beautiful place. But it's turning into somewhere to visit, and not live. See you soon Sierra's!

Totally. Speaking as someone who lived in the bay area for 4 years and happily left after college, why live in CA when you can work remotely from anywhere else, live well, own a sizable property, and make decent bank? The bay area is great to visit, I was literally just there a couple months ago. But to live I would need to make 4x what I do now.

Access to the local economy.

Re: California's skyrocketing housing costs, taxes prompt exodus of residents

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Post by vermontdevil »

duaneb wrote: post #6
sawthat wrote: post #3

Nobody lives there anymore, it's too crowded.

Population density doesn't indicate anything about migration or wealth distribution.

It's a play on Yogi Berra, a recently deceased baseball player, quote:

'Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.'

Re: California's skyrocketing housing costs, taxes prompt exodus of residents

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Post by overcast »

abduhl wrote: post #7
overcast wrote: post #2

It's unfortunate, California is such a beautiful place. But it's turning into somewhere to visit, and not live. See you soon Sierra's!

I move around and travel a lot for work - I've lived in 4 states in the last 2 years (CO, WA, CA, TX) - and one of the universal things across all the midwest and west coast that I've found is that while most people like the weather/scenery in California EVERYONE hates people from California, except for the people in California. I've heard the saying "California would be great if it wasn't for the people" in literall…

Is there anyone FROM California anymore? I'm guessing that sentiment comes from the type that are attracted to the entertainment industry.

Re: California's skyrocketing housing costs, taxes prompt exodus of residents

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Post by KKKKkkkk1 »

One of the local public radio stations had a show this week about how well San Francisco is doing budget-wise. Apparently, the San Francisco budget in the last decade has been growing much faster than the local economy, and it's been all going towards paying pension obligations, assistance to homeless and low-income people etc. Talk about killing the golden goose.

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Post by rdtsc »

TwiztidK wrote: post #9

I just visited some friends in southern California and the possibility of me moving out there came up in conversation. So, I used a cost of living calculator to figure how much more I would need to make to be at the same level... 60% more. Definitely not going to happen.

I visited a few times in the past. Spent a large part of the day stuck in LA traffic. It wasn't even morning or evening community, it seems it is an all day kinda thing.

There was a metro / subway there but it never seemed to go where we wanted to go.

Re: California's skyrocketing housing costs, taxes prompt exodus of residents

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Post by throwanem »

pixl97 wrote: post #10
up_and_up wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally. Speaking as someone who lived in the bay area for 4 years and happily left after college, why live in CA when you can work remotely from anywhere else, live well, own a sizable property, and make decent bank? The bay area is great to visit, I was literally just there a couple months ago. But to live I would need to make 4x what I do now.

Well, the weather is nice in many places, and it has some beautiful scenery. Probably why so many people live there in the first place. Texas on the other hand is hot and flat. Really boring here. Oh and it's too crowded. Yep, if you're from California Texas is worse. Don't want to move here. Please stop moving here, please, oh god please.

Replace "hot and flat" with "gray and rainy" and that's the western third of Oregon, too.

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Post by TDL »

KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #14

One of the local public radio stations had a show this week about how well San Francisco is doing budget-wise. Apparently, the San Francisco budget in the last decade has been growing much faster than the local economy, and it's been all going towards paying pension obligations, assistance to homeless and low-income people etc. Talk about killing the golden goose.

Being from Chicago I say it's a good thing to pay down the pension obligations. Pension obligations can cause a lot of problems in the future. Although I don't believe governments should be growing their budgets aggressively, squaring gov obligations is a good thing.

Re: California's skyrocketing housing costs, taxes prompt exodus of residents

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Post by manacit »

up_and_up wrote: post #4
overcast wrote: post #2

It's unfortunate, California is such a beautiful place. But it's turning into somewhere to visit, and not live. See you soon Sierra's!

Totally. Speaking as someone who lived in the bay area for 4 years and happily left after college, why live in CA when you can work remotely from anywhere else, live well, own a sizable property, and make decent bank? The bay area is great to visit, I was literally just there a couple months ago. But to live I would need to make 4x what I do now.

Of course, hobbies and preferences are inherently subjective, but CA has a lot to offer.

Parts of the state have (what I consider) perfect weather year round; access to the beach and mountains to ski/snowboard, tons of other outdoor activities, etc. You can find most of these in other places, of course, but CA is pretty unique in that it's all in the same state, and easily accessible.

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