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Re: Branding Vice

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Post by chrisdbaldwin »

rewrew wrote: post #7
chrisdbaldwin wrote: post #4

Is it "injecting" if the content was native-advertising to begin with?

If it was it wasn't labeled correctly. That said, it appears that many of the examples even six or seven years old; before even the FTC suggested labeling guidelines came out (and the actual rules only came out in December). Reading more of this site the author comes not as having a very personal vendetta against Vice (although there's not really a hint as to what has set it off). I'm very skeptical of the underlying…

As a disclaimer, I stopped consuming VICE for this exact reason. I'm more skeptical of the underlying agenda of VICE than some rando blogger with an axe to grind.

Re: Branding Vice

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Post by ctdonath »

tcdent wrote: post #3

What a trashy, incongruent rant of an article. Regardless, a vast majority of their content doesn't include any reference to marketable brands. If the OP is accusing them of being a PR news agency, I have seen very little evidence of it. Questioning wether they are a business trying to earn a profit is incredibly naive. However, if I was to criticize anything about their journalistic integrity, it's the tendency for…

We don't have nearly enough ... media companies pursuing the types of stories Vice does.

They do exist, Great Big Story http://www.greatbigstory.com for one.

Re: Branding Vice

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Post by tn13 »

The rant might be genuine. Post McInnes VICE was not as provocative as it use to be. At present VICE just brings the politically correct news reporting in a provocative format. Clearly one has ignore facts in favor of a good story. Most news media does this I dont think why VICE should be singled out.

The whole zoo is like a fancy dress competition I dont see why VICE should be demonized or singled out.

P.S. Vice also remains probably the only media house to come up with these real off beat stories. They might have taken creative liberties with facts but then who does not ?

Examples:

https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/life-as-a-member-of-i... http://www.vice.com/read/first-person-shooter-building-maint... http://www.vice.com/read/why-prisons-should-give-inmates-acc...

Re: Branding Vice

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Post by serg_chernata »

Is there a publication that does edgy, interesting content like Vice but isn't tied up in advertising controversy? This is a multi-layered question so answer however you like, I'm genuinely curious.

Re: Branding Vice

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Post by ybrah »

serg_chernata wrote: post #14

Is there a publication that does edgy, interesting content like Vice but isn't tied up in advertising controversy? This is a multi-layered question so answer however you like, I'm genuinely curious.

4chan

Re: Branding Vice

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Post by serg_chernata »

ybrah wrote: post #16
serg_chernata wrote: post #14

Is there a publication that does edgy, interesting content like Vice but isn't tied up in advertising controversy? This is a multi-layered question so answer however you like, I'm genuinely curious.

4chan

Well played, though I'd wager between trolling and conspiracy theories it's near impossible to pick out legitimate information from the rest.

Re: Branding Vice

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Post by xemdetia »

linkregister wrote: post #10
busterarm wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A handful of Vice articles I've read over the years have touched on my personal sphere - people or causes I'm directly involved with. Their fact checking is actually quite poor. They get tons of easily verified stuff wrong. Moreover, I've seen at least two instances where such errors prevented a brand/product/person from being perceived in a negative light. Some of their articles have been wrong to the point of the e…

Yes their fact-checking is really poor in some articles. Their tech reporting is awful. I love their international stories, such as the North Korea special. Do you know of any inaccuracies in these stories?

From what I have read elsewhere most of those stories seem to be in line with what the world at large knows. It is hard to tell if it's just two different parts of the shop lead by by different management with different goals.

Re: Branding Vice

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Post by I_HALF_CATS »

linkregister wrote: post #9

The author of this article has a serious axe to grind with VICE which overshadows the few good points he makes. The photoshopped pictures of VICE executives with consumer brands are embarrassingly bad. It does bother me that VICE sometimes over-editorializes some of its stories and does some truth stretching. Overall, I think the quality stories are worthwhile and I can just roll my eyes at the misinformative ones, e…

The other Vice parody link in the same article.

https://vimeo.com/121639159

via: https://notvice.com/everyone-is-laughing-at-vice-a82a33228b0...

P.S. I'm the author, will answer questions regarding my adversarial blog after work. (posted at lunch)

Re: Branding Vice

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Post by linkregister »

I_HALF_CATS wrote: post #19
linkregister wrote: post #9

The author of this article has a serious axe to grind with VICE which overshadows the few good points he makes. The photoshopped pictures of VICE executives with consumer brands are embarrassingly bad. It does bother me that VICE sometimes over-editorializes some of its stories and does some truth stretching. Overall, I think the quality stories are worthwhile and I can just roll my eyes at the misinformative ones, e…

The other Vice parody link in the same article. https://vimeo.com/121639159 via: https://notvice.com/everyone-is-laughing-at-vice-a82a33228b0... P.S. I'm the author, will answer questions regarding my adversarial blog after work. (posted at lunch)

That was the article, thanks for introducing me to EDGE, it's great!

I'm looking forward for the discussion after you finish lunch.

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