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The most alienating thing that happened to me as a female engineer

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Re: The most alienating thing that happened to me as a female engineer

#11
This happens to both females and males. I've worked in toxic environments where normal things I do and like are ridiculed. I've had the COO of a company tell me that "my girlfriend sounds like my hand".

I've also worked in environments where everyone respects each other and their differences. This may have been happening simply because you were working with toxic people who simply didn't like you, and less because you were a female.

Re: The most alienating thing that happened to me as a female engineer

#12
From the article comments:

>Somebody just shared this post on Hacker News. Based on past behavior from the majority of its users I think you can look forward to being called a "feminazi" and being doxxed. You will definitely have a new "most alienating experience in tech" in your near future. Nobody on Hacker News is sexist and they are very good at understanding the difficulties of people who ain't exactly like them. They will call you every name in the book just to prove that.

Ouch.

Re: The most alienating thing that happened to me as a female engineer

#13
post #3

> If I had done that, the outcry would've been thundering. People would question my social skills. They would tell me that I lack social etiquette Sounds like she still is socially retarded. Has she never heard of group dynamic?

And it sounds like you need to practice your delivery until you can participate in conversations like a civilized adult.

You're no different with that comment buddy.

Re: The most alienating thing that happened to me as a female engineer

#15
Wow, if that's the most alienating experience she has had, I am envious. As a male engineer who does not like sports, I've had far worse experiences involving outright ridicule when I asked to watch something besides a game.

I didn't blog about it though, because I have real problems far more vexing than not having 100% compatibility with my coworkers.

Re: The most alienating thing that happened to me as a female engineer

#17
Another retarded feminist cunt who instead of actually talking to her colleagues and addressing the issues is just sitting there quiet building hate and insane rage inside her and trying to find problems where there are none.

The fact that they didn't let you change the basketball to friends has nothing to do with you being a women but simply because majority of the office wanted to watch the basketball.

It's amazing how some of these bitches in the industry think that everyone should worship them and do everything like they demand and if there is even the slightest thing wrong it's always discrimination, "being a woman in " etc.

Re: The most alienating thing that happened to me as a female engineer

#18
> If I had walked in, and baseball was showing on the television, it would be completely unthinkable for me to grab the remote and change it to Friends.

Why?

I wonder if she ever tried, or just assumed it was unthinkable. I suspect it was less unthinkable than she thinks it was. From the rest of the story, it sounds like not only was it thinkable for people to try to change the channel, it was expected even. Otherwise the joke wouldn't work.

As people on imgur like to say: Do Thing. Maintain eye contact. Assert dominance.

You have to establish boundaries. If people are doing shit you don't want them to, stop them. As a general rule, people will treat you the way you let them treat you.

edit: I wonder how many people downvoting me are assuming I write this as a member of The In-Group. Okay I am a guy, but that's where the ingroupness stops for various reasons that would take a while to list.

Re: The most alienating thing that happened to me as a female engineer

#19
To summarize: Most of the team wants to watch progam A; watching program A during dinner is an established team ritual; author wants to change channel to program B, which is "met with incredulity and laughter". Some time later, program B is running; team members come in and want to change the channel to program A. And that latter event is the most alienating during her time at Microsoft.

Wat.

It gets better: Because program A is baseball, and program B is Friends, and since we all know that baseball is a man's program, and Friends is a woman's program, this is really about gender discrimination and sexism.

> People would question my social skills.

I really do.

Re: The most alienating thing that happened to me as a female engineer

#20
What does the TV story have to do with gender? I don't think gender adds anything. It would be no less rude if they were all die hard Firefly fans and watched re-runs every night, and author changed it to baseball.

I won't defend the other anecdotes though.

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