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The Antikythera mechanism is still revealing its secrets

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it probably really is a photo. Here [1] and here [2] are some more and that thing looks pretty unreal in most of them. [1] http://wetpixel.com/full_frame/brett-seymour-return-to-antik... [2] http://antikythera.whoi.edu/2014/10/07/exosuit-dives-antikyt...

It looks like the color saturation was maxed out and some of the blues and reds started clipping in the saturation range.

You lose a lot of the longer wavelength colors underwater, they probably adjusted the levels to compensate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_photography#Lightin...

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What would the world be like if these ancient scientists and engineers persisted and their science and craft carried on and developed further? Instead, the period that followed gave rise to belief systems that still give us problems today. How very sad.

I'm keeping my hopes up that they formed a secret society and are guiding the world with a steady hand towards an enlightened future.

(Then I read the news and cry in my corn flakes, of course.)

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What would the world be like if these ancient scientists and engineers persisted and their science and craft carried on and developed further? Instead, the period that followed gave rise to belief systems that still give us problems today. How very sad.

Do we know why such expertise was lost in the first place? The collapse of the Roman empire wasn't for another couple centuries.

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Derek de Solla Price is an interesting character. 50+ years ago while stacking and organizing scientific journals by year, he noticed the stacks grew in height in a logarithmic curve. From there, so much. "He was The Avalon Professor of the History of Science at Yale University from 1960 until his death in 1983. He was the first to record a complete lecture series on History of Science which could serve as a foundati…

Thanks for sharing that link, it is very interesting.

But I'm curious - what do you think is wrong with the site design? It's responsive, legible, tasteful, and has no extraneous graphics nor a single thing that uBlock had to block. I wish the rest of the web was this beautiful.

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What would the world be like if these ancient scientists and engineers persisted and their science and craft carried on and developed further? Instead, the period that followed gave rise to belief systems that still give us problems today. How very sad.

> and their science and craft carried on

And their gods too?

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What would the world be like if these ancient scientists and engineers persisted and their science and craft carried on and developed further? Instead, the period that followed gave rise to belief systems that still give us problems today. How very sad.

Do we know why such expertise was lost in the first place? The collapse of the Roman empire wasn't for another couple centuries.

It was a Greek device. Theory is that it was pilfered with the other artifacts found in the shipwreck, en route to Julius Caesar. Rough couple years to be a Greek scientist.

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Derek de Solla Price is an interesting character. 50+ years ago while stacking and organizing scientific journals by year, he noticed the stacks grew in height in a logarithmic curve. From there, so much. "He was The Avalon Professor of the History of Science at Yale University from 1960 until his death in 1983. He was the first to record a complete lecture series on History of Science which could serve as a foundati…

> Derek de Solla Price is an interesting character. 50+ years ago while stacking and organizing scientific journals by year, he noticed the stacks grew in height in a logarithmic curve. From there, so much.

I'm afraid I don't understand, especially not the last sentence. Could you explain?

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What would the world be like if these ancient scientists and engineers persisted and their science and craft carried on and developed further? Instead, the period that followed gave rise to belief systems that still give us problems today. How very sad.

I'm keeping my hopes up that they formed a secret society and are guiding the world with a steady hand towards an enlightened future. (Then I read the news and cry in my corn flakes, of course.)

Well, maybe the news is just there to steer us towards a new and more glorious dawn.

Due to the laws of thermodynamics I have little belief left for a beneficent (let alone malignant) secret society of any stripe. But I could be wrong. There are more things in heaven and earth and all that.

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Derek de Solla Price is an interesting character. 50+ years ago while stacking and organizing scientific journals by year, he noticed the stacks grew in height in a logarithmic curve. From there, so much. "He was The Avalon Professor of the History of Science at Yale University from 1960 until his death in 1983. He was the first to record a complete lecture series on History of Science which could serve as a foundati…

Thanks for sharing that link, it is very interesting. But I'm curious - what do you think is wrong with the site design? It's responsive, legible, tasteful, and has no extraneous graphics nor a single thing that uBlock had to block. I wish the rest of the web was this beautiful.

Yes, it's the default Wordpress "Twenty Fifteen" template.

It contains very important books corrupted by cut and paste into the wonky WordPress editor / blog post renderer.

Someone in a hurry might think it was an autogenerated GoDaddy cash parking page, not one of the more interesting sites on the web. Thus my note.

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Can anyone with free access post the PDFs from the Almagest journal articles? http://www.hpdst.gr/publications/almagest/issues/7-1

Drats - I didn't mean to downvote! I actually really appreciate the obligatory utility comments referencing where to get the docs.
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