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Re: 64% of new energy from Solar Power in Q1 is not enough

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Post by teslaberry » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 3:56 AM UTC

the smartest energy investors from the green energy bubble which burst 3 YEARS AGO NOW, have all basically concluded that we are not YET at the tipping point, accelerating up the curve, of scaling the construction of industrial solar .

perhaps the cheerleaders who pout about our 'slow' progress are doing us a service by trying to motivate us. but i also see them as pesky and annoying.

while some measure of r&d benefits from the feedback loop of failure to industrialize or failures learned from in the industrialization of extant technologies, ------the reality is that basic r&d needs to be done. much much more of it.

pushing relentlessly for industrialization at a stage in time where the technology IS NOT YET READY TO SCALE RELATIVE TO OUR EXISTING BASE---------is just foolishness and a waste of money.

BETTER TO SPEND THE MONEY IN R&D, THAN TO WASTE TOO MUCH OF IT ON NON-SCALEABLE SYSTEMS.

Re: 64% of new energy from Solar Power in Q1 is not enough

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Post by teslaberry » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 4:00 AM UTC

samcheng wrote: post #3

A few interesting tidbits from the table in the article: 1) Coal is seeing a dramatic decline! The decrease in electricity generated by coal in 2015 was four times the increase in renewable (wind+solar) electricity generated. In fact, it was more than all other electricity increases combined. This is great for the environment, and not just from a carbon perspective, also from an ash and air pollution perspective. (Bu…

2) we ARE SEEING A DRAMATIC ECONOMIC CRASH IN THE WEST.

electricity rates in europe have skyrocketed and this is part of the artificial scarcity of electricity , and the suckout of savings that is draining the european economy by rising costs (electricity costs as input to industrial goods) and declining supply ( of money that could have been spent or saved and reinvested in other things other than ridiculous high cash payments for electricity)

Re: 64% of new energy from Solar Power in Q1 is not enough

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Post by samcheng » Mon, Jun 13, 2016, 5:25 AM UTC

teslaberry wrote: post #12

samcheng wrote: post #3

A few interesting tidbits from the table in the article: 1) Coal is seeing a dramatic decline! The decrease in electricity generated by coal in 2015 was four times the increase in renewable (wind+solar) electricity generated. In fact, it was more than all other electricity increases combined. This is great for the environment, and not just from a carbon perspective, also from an ash and air pollution perspective. (Bu…

2) we ARE SEEING A DRAMATIC ECONOMIC CRASH IN THE WEST. electricity rates in europe have skyrocketed and this is part of the artificial scarcity of electricity , and the suckout of savings that is draining the european economy by rising costs (electricity costs as input to industrial goods) and declining supply ( of money that could have been spent or saved and reinvested in other things other than ridiculous high ca…

This was a table of electricity generated in the United States; unemployment is at its lowest since 2008, with GDP growth at 2.2% - not shrinking.

It's more likely that the drop in electricity generation was weather related, but I don't have the data on hand to prove that.