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Re: Finally fired after 6 years

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Instead of asking what else he can do, or provide more value or grow into more responsibility, he sat on his hands and played League all day? I'm disappointed it took them 6 years to act on it.

Well he was 22 at the time, so that makes a bit more sense. Honestly I've had times on one of my jobs where I just had to kill time all day and I hated it. It's one of the reason I later decided to leave.

We've all had times where we're not fully invested in our work. Sometimes even weeks, maybe months in extreme circumstances. 6 years is absurdly bad. I can't imagine the management getting off lightly here either.

Re: Finally fired after 6 years

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> doing Quality Assurance work So I am guessing if he was actually a developer to begin with his job would have been a bit harder to automate.

From the Reddit post: > I got a job as a software developer working mostly on testing software, so mostly QA work. However I actually had to write some code as well. After around 8 months I had basically automated my own job by writing some programs to do it all for me. It certainly doesn't look like a manual QA job. The part that surprises me is that the tests didn't change for six years. Surely after 6 years someth…

This sounds like a management issue more than anything else. The guy screwed up, but how did no one catch on for 6 years? How did he not have someone managing him making sure he had enough work?

Seems like he 'fell through the cracks' of startup culture. The company grew so fast that he was just there and no one questioned it after a while and no one was in charge of him.

Or someone was and they need retraining/firing.

Re: Finally fired after 6 years

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They fired the only guy who automated all his tasks, and did it so well nobody noticed for 6 years. They are idiots. They should have assigned him to automate the hell out of everybody else's tasks and gain tons of additional work-hours for free. This reminds me of that guy several years back who outsourced all his tasks to China and was employee of the month again and again. They also found out via IT dept, checking…

I think this is on the management as much as the employee. I'd hope employees look for more work to do as opposed to just taking a paycheck.

Re: Finally fired after 6 years

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Dude has 200k in the bank. If he's found motivation, he can just do a masters course. That will teach him a few things and get him back in the coding saddle, and give a plausible reason for why he's looking for work afterwards.

What's scary is the people who actually have been coding for several years and still don't know how to do it. No version control, no idea what common patterns are, ridiculously complex spaghetti code. We all know them.

Re: Finally fired after 6 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well he was 22 at the time, so that makes a bit more sense. Honestly I've had times on one of my jobs where I just had to kill time all day and I hated it. It's one of the reason I later decided to leave.

We've all had times where we're not fully invested in our work. Sometimes even weeks, maybe months in extreme circumstances. 6 years is absurdly bad. I can't imagine the management getting off lightly here either.

Either his manager needs some serious training (or a new job) or he just fell through the cracks and ended up in a position where no one was in charge of him and no one realized it.

Re: Finally fired after 6 years

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They fired the only guy who automated all his tasks, and did it so well nobody noticed for 6 years. They are idiots. They should have assigned him to automate the hell out of everybody else's tasks and gain tons of additional work-hours for free. This reminds me of that guy several years back who outsourced all his tasks to China and was employee of the month again and again. They also found out via IT dept, checking…

I've heard that factories will rotate lazy people around the factory floor because the method that requires the least amount of effort to achieve the needed result. Then the company can teach the lazy person's method to their less lazy/less creative employees.

Perhaps the story is apocryphal, but I think there is a grain of truth in the story. Managed properly, laziness can benefit the company. The problem you run in to is that lazy individuals are difficult to manage properly. A company isn't going to realize the benefits from a lazy individual if they aren't permitted to find their own solution to problems, and the shortcuts lazy individuals take can be dangerous depending on what shortcuts they are taking.

I wouldn't want to work for a company that is willing to fire someone for not doing anything for six years because you wrote a script that did basically everything. It implies they value the effort pertaining to my work rather than the actual output, which is insane. That just reeks of terrible management.

That being said, I don't want to imply that all lazy people make great employees. I've definitely worked with people who were just completely unwilling to do anything but the bare minimum, if they did any work at all. I don't think individuals who actively avoid all work without coming up with an alternative are of much use to any organization.

Re: Finally fired after 6 years

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I feel mostly sorry, not jealous for this guy. Even though he plays it cool, I'm sure he lived in constant fear of being discovered for six years and being speechless any questioning.

Plus.. I actually enjoy coding. I wouldn't even want to automate my job. I know that in the past I've wanted ways to escape working, but now that I'm a developer I couldn't imagine finding ways not to work (I guess except for browsing HN)
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