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Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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Gawker are scum. They disobeyed a court order. They deserved the lawsuit. If you want freedom of speech to out people and attack everyone, expect people with money to use said money to fight back legally. It's their freedom too.

Good point. This isn't an argument against your comment but I wonder, at which point does everyone exercising their freedoms become anarchy?

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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From the article: "Historically, news publications have treated certain subjects very carefully: if you’re rich and [...] litigious, then [...] organizations will have lawyers do a careful review of anything they write about you [...]" Well, if they would now have to "do a careful review" of everything they write for the fear of vengeful billionaire going after them, nobody would shed a tear. But obviously that wont…

He seems to be saying that vetting info about people who are not known to have enough resources to pursue legal remedy themselves is too large a hardship for journalists to endure. In all of the voluminous writing about this topic this week, I have yet to encounter a single good objection to what Thiel is doing. I'm honestly mystified by why so many people are objecting to this.

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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"Later asked by an attorney for Hogan if there was a situation in which a celebrity sex tape might not be newsworthy, Delaurio responded: “If they were a child.” The attorney then asked him to specify: a child under what age? Daulerio responded: “Four.”" This was the Gawker editor who came up with the sex tape and story. This sums up the the anything goes interpretation of free speech these people have. (Although he…

Yeah ,There are no good guys here. Criticizing Thiel shouldn't be confused with supporting Gawker , because we don't know who Thiel might choose to punish next

Yeah, it scares me that people are accepting this as "philanthropy" uncritically.

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah ,There are no good guys here. Criticizing Thiel shouldn't be confused with supporting Gawker , because we don't know who Thiel might choose to punish next

Yeah, it scares me that people are accepting this as "philanthropy" uncritically.

FWIW I would never have considered Thiel's actions to be philanthropy. Which is why I was so confused when reading the headline "Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy."

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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post #2

Gawker are scum. They disobeyed a court order. They deserved the lawsuit. If you want freedom of speech to out people and attack everyone, expect people with money to use said money to fight back legally. It's their freedom too.

Exactly.

If anything, this is not a problem of freedom of speech. This is an old legal problem: "the rich have money to pay the lawyers and the poor don't".

But in this case, Hulk Hogan is 100% right, and Thiel is doing society a favor.

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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post #10
post #3

"Later asked by an attorney for Hogan if there was a situation in which a celebrity sex tape might not be newsworthy, Delaurio responded: “If they were a child.” The attorney then asked him to specify: a child under what age? Daulerio responded: “Four.”" This was the Gawker editor who came up with the sex tape and story. This sums up the the anything goes interpretation of free speech these people have. (Although he…

Yeah ,There are no good guys here. Criticizing Thiel shouldn't be confused with supporting Gawker , because we don't know who Thiel might choose to punish next

> we don't know who Thiel might choose to punish next

Thiel didn't "punish" anyone. Gawker broke the law, and he helped hold them to account via the legal system.

I don't like Thiel one tiny bit. He's a weirdo. But this is, like, the least bad thing a billionaire has ever done to infringe on "free speech". Hypothetically abusing the legal system (eg, many frivolous lawsuits) would be bad, but he hasn't actually done that.

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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"Later asked by an attorney for Hogan if there was a situation in which a celebrity sex tape might not be newsworthy, Delaurio responded: “If they were a child.” The attorney then asked him to specify: a child under what age? Daulerio responded: “Four.”" This was the Gawker editor who came up with the sex tape and story. This sums up the the anything goes interpretation of free speech these people have. (Although he…

Forget about the greater cause, Gawker messes with the wrong guy.

i agree w this comment on twitter: Let's say that Thiel & Gawker is a match made in heaven.

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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post #2

Gawker are scum. They disobeyed a court order. They deserved the lawsuit. If you want freedom of speech to out people and attack everyone, expect people with money to use said money to fight back legally. It's their freedom too.

Good point. This isn't an argument against your comment but I wonder, at which point does everyone exercising their freedoms become anarchy?

'anarchy' and 'civil lawsuits' seem to be very distant ideas

Re: Peter Thiel's dangerous blueprint for perverting philanthropy

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post #3

"Later asked by an attorney for Hogan if there was a situation in which a celebrity sex tape might not be newsworthy, Delaurio responded: “If they were a child.” The attorney then asked him to specify: a child under what age? Daulerio responded: “Four.”" This was the Gawker editor who came up with the sex tape and story. This sums up the the anything goes interpretation of free speech these people have. (Although he…

I dunno, I don't see this as any different than when someone gets donations to their legal fund from supporters, or really what the ACLU, EFF, NAACP, etc., do with their legal programs.
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