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Re: Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub

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Weird, it seems like some of their team has been decidedly anti-white. http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/26/githubs-diversity-is-just-a... Edit: Removed Breitbart link

really? breitbart.com?

Sorry, I grabbed the first link. Are they a poor source (honestly don't know)?

I also found http://www.techinsider.io/github-the-full-inside-story-2016-... and http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/26/githubs-diversity-is-just-a...

The tweets and images came from Githubbers themselves.

Re: Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub

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This blog post reads to me like the Pokemon motto "Gotta Catch 'Em All".

Being non-american (I'm from a South American country) it is hard for me to understand the importance giving to these things associated to racism and sexism. The United States is the only place I have seen where people invest a considerable amount of time and resources just to put people from minor groups or specific genders in pedestals just to please other people. You will (probably) never see such thing in Latin American because no one cares why color your skin is or what gender you identify with in order to get a specific job.

Why do they care if there are no "Black/African-American" in their company? Or that 10% are black women? Or that 35% of women are in a leadership role? Like who cares? Are their roles assigned based on their gender and/or skin color?

Jesus, even my European co-workers make fun of Americans for these things. Let people build their career based on how they work and not their ethnicity nor gender, otherwise you will be incentivizing more racism and more sexism.

Re: Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub

#13
Ever since Zach Holman "left", it appears as though GitHub has been eaten away from the inside by intersectional feminism. There appear to be subversive efforts to turn tech companies into platforms for social justice. I can only imagine it must be really uncomfortable to work in this sort of environment.

Re: Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub

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This blog post reads to me like the Pokemon motto "Gotta Catch 'Em All". Being non-american (I'm from a South American country) it is hard for me to understand the importance giving to these things associated to racism and sexism. The United States is the only place I have seen where people invest a considerable amount of time and resources just to put people from minor groups or specific genders in pedestals just to…

If you want to look for examples closer to home, try reading about the Mapucho.

Re: Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub

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To me every example of diversity basically has been the concept that "there are too many white people in the room." And to a smaller degree that "there are too many straight men...".

I've never seen this applied to non-whites, at least not to this degree. In fact, 100% black-demographic teams (or businesses or organisations) are oftentimes praised for being "authentically black".

IMO, the way I see it is once a productive homogeneous group (which by definition is composed of members that are able to agree with each other and engage in actual progress rather than in-fighting) puts in the effort and spends the time building the infrastructure/business/etc and makes it successful - then other groups see this as an opportunity to get something out of it... "Diversity for the sake of diversity" only comes in at the end, never at the beginning.

It is also odd that when someone says diversity is our strength, they never really share the actual details of that strength.

To me this is a turning point for a company that goes from being work oriented to becoming a race/gender oriented cesspool where everything is about your color, genitalia, and gender.

Re: Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub

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post #8

"There are no Black/African-American GitHubbers in management positions, which is unacceptable." Why is it unacceptable? Just by virtue of the number of different kinds of people -- race, gender, etc there's no way to have 'one of each' for every position for maximum diversity. This sort of thing is so creepy because it treats people like collectible figures ("Oh yeah? Well I added a black transgendered person to our…

I think that the reason you find this objectionable is because you misunderstand the goal and the premises, and therefore the statement. It is not, "universally, we need one of each", but (goal:) "we must ensure no group is marginalized" + (premise:) "blacks are marginalized" = (conclusion:) "we must reduce the marginalization of blacks" = (statement:) "it is unacceptable that there are no blacks" In general, most pr…

This strikes me as centralized planning for jobs. It seems like the best way to go about this is focusing on the pool of applicants and making sure everyone gets a fair shake. Making assumptions about the outcome of those hiring decisions independent of the actual applicants seems neither fair nor good for business.

Re: Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

really? breitbart.com?

Sorry, I grabbed the first link. Are they a poor source (honestly don't know)? I also found http://www.techinsider.io/github-the-full-inside-story-2016-... and http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/26/githubs-diversity-is-just-a... The tweets and images came from Githubbers themselves.

> Are they a poor source (honestly don't know)?

Extremely. Breitbart regularly publicizes stories that are misleading at best or just flat out wrong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breitbart_News_Network#Notable...

Re: Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub

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This blog post reads to me like the Pokemon motto "Gotta Catch 'Em All". Being non-american (I'm from a South American country) it is hard for me to understand the importance giving to these things associated to racism and sexism. The United States is the only place I have seen where people invest a considerable amount of time and resources just to put people from minor groups or specific genders in pedestals just to…

There are literally countries that have laws mandating gender representation in government. Since you don't seem invested in the topic, why not assume that GitHub has benefitted in the way that they say they have in this post?

Re: Diversity and Inclusion at GitHub

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This blog post reads to me like the Pokemon motto "Gotta Catch 'Em All". Being non-american (I'm from a South American country) it is hard for me to understand the importance giving to these things associated to racism and sexism. The United States is the only place I have seen where people invest a considerable amount of time and resources just to put people from minor groups or specific genders in pedestals just to…

> The United States is the only place I have seen where people invest a considerable amount of time and resources just to put people from minor groups or specific genders in pedestals just to please other people.

It's not "just to please other people"; it's to attempt to counteract the institutionalized discrimination against minorities that exists throughout the country.

Studies have shown[1] that, for example, people with "White-sounding" names get more responses from job applications than people with "Black-sounding" names, even when the resumes sent in are identical.

[1]: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/mar/15/...

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