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China’s scary lesson to the world: Censoring the Internet works

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Re: China’s scary lesson to the world: Censoring the Internet works

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So what about Tor and obfsproxy? Does it actually (still) work? If so, why don't more people use it?; if not, why not?

I can't easily find up-to-date information about this through Google - which I find odd, since China is such an important use case for Tor that I would expect them to maintain some sort of status page. Maybe the information is more readily available in Chinese...

Re: China’s scary lesson to the world: Censoring the Internet works

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post #8

The Chinese own China and can decide for themselves what is best for their country. But as an American living in China, I fear that some of what I see here can and will happen in America one day.

Sure; but you're not making a moral argument here right? That is, they can decide, but it's still objectively wrong.

Re: China’s scary lesson to the world: Censoring the Internet works

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post #11

So what about Tor and obfsproxy? Does it actually (still) work? If so, why don't more people use it?; if not, why not? I can't easily find up-to-date information about this through Google - which I find odd, since China is such an important use case for Tor that I would expect them to maintain some sort of status page. Maybe the information is more readily available in Chinese...

The biggest barrier to the outside world is the language barrier. That's not just true for China.

Re: China’s scary lesson to the world: Censoring the Internet works

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Not surprising. And I doubt other country can do the same. Several factors makes China a unique case: 1. Massive domestic market, China along can have its own internet ecosystem, which is the fundamental reason why GFW can endure.

2.Conformist culture due to its Confucian tradition

3.Communist government has firm grasp of its power and stay vigilant to any sign or power that acts against it.

Re: China’s scary lesson to the world: Censoring the Internet works

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post #11

So what about Tor and obfsproxy? Does it actually (still) work? If so, why don't more people use it?; if not, why not? I can't easily find up-to-date information about this through Google - which I find odd, since China is such an important use case for Tor that I would expect them to maintain some sort of status page. Maybe the information is more readily available in Chinese...

The last I heard they were giving bridge addresses to friends within the country that were spreading them through their social networks (since china had blocked all the bridge addresses they were giving out online). That along with the obfuscation stuff was working.

China's deep packet inspection was pretty sophisticated though and getting worse (usually ramping up during political events). It'd be interesting to see an update, but I haven't seen a talk from Roger Dingledine or Jacob Appelbaum about it in a while.

Re: China’s scary lesson to the world: Censoring the Internet works

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post #11

So what about Tor and obfsproxy? Does it actually (still) work? If so, why don't more people use it?; if not, why not? I can't easily find up-to-date information about this through Google - which I find odd, since China is such an important use case for Tor that I would expect them to maintain some sort of status page. Maybe the information is more readily available in Chinese...

From what I understand OpenVPN tunneled through stunnel works, but I haven't tried it myself.

Setting yourself up with your own private bridge might be another way to go.

Re: China’s scary lesson to the world: Censoring the Internet works

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post #8

The Chinese own China and can decide for themselves what is best for their country. But as an American living in China, I fear that some of what I see here can and will happen in America one day.

Sure; but you're not making a moral argument here right? That is, they can decide, but it's still objectively wrong.

I am a guest in this country. Irrespective of what I believe is right or unalienable it is not my place to insert myself into their politics.
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