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Re: FiveFilters: Send web articles to Kindle

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Post by rajeefmk » Sun, May 15, 2016, 5:59 AM UTC

ikeboy wrote: post #3

Why use this over http://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle ? There's a browser extension as well.

With Amazon's notorious history of locking up / wiping devices in name of DRM (ref 1, ref2) , I wouldn't be surprised if people would prefer pushing it directly to kindle instead of through Amazon. (Atleast one layer scrutiny is avoided).

That said, this looks pretty clean.

Ref 1: http://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/oct/22/amazon-wipes-cu...

Ref 2: http://boingboing.net/2009/07/30/high-school-student-1.html

Re: FiveFilters: Send web articles to Kindle

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Post by habi » Sun, May 15, 2016, 8:14 AM UTC

https://www.instapaper.com/ can send your unread articles to a Kindle automatically. I use it to send myself a weekly sampler of my unread items, which I've saved with it's bookmarklet.

Re: FiveFilters: Send web articles to Kindle

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Post by ikeboy » Sun, May 15, 2016, 10:39 AM UTC

rajeefmk wrote: post #11

ikeboy wrote: post #3

Why use this over http://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle ? There's a browser extension as well.

With Amazon's notorious history of locking up / wiping devices in name of DRM (ref 1, ref2) , I wouldn't be surprised if people would prefer pushing it directly to kindle instead of through Amazon. (Atleast one layer scrutiny is avoided). That said, this looks pretty clean. Ref 1: http://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/oct/22/amazon-wipes-cu... Ref 2: http://boingboing.net/2009/07/30/high-school-student-1.html

Doesn't matter. This site just sends it to Amazon to send to your kindle, it doesn't push it directly.

Re: FiveFilters: Send web articles to Kindle

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Post by k1m » Sun, May 15, 2016, 11:27 AM UTC

ikeboy wrote: post #3

Why use this over http://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle ? There's a browser extension as well.

I'm the creator of the FiveFilters.org Push to Kindle service.

The technical difference, as far as I'm aware, is that the Amazon version works by using Javascript on your browser to identify the content block and send it to your account. We make a separate request for the content from the server. The JS method works better in many cases (e.g. if the page you're viewing is not publicly accessible - paywall perhaps). The implementation, however, is problematic for many people.

See user reviews of the Amazon version at https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/send-to-kindle-for... and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sendtokindle/

User reviews of our extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/push-to-kindle/pna... and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/kindle-it/ and https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.fivefilter...

Another difference is that we offer an Android app and an email service to get articles to your Kindle account. Amazon does not offer this themselves yet. Their send to Kindle offering on Android is for personal documents on the device itself.

I should also add that when we released Push to Kindle, Amazon did not offer their own browser extensions. So although we weren't the first, we weren't competing with Amazon.

Re: FiveFilters: Send web articles to Kindle

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Post by k1m » Sun, May 15, 2016, 11:28 AM UTC

ikeboy wrote: post #13

rajeefmk wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Amazon's notorious history of locking up / wiping devices in name of DRM (ref 1, ref2) , I wouldn't be surprised if people would prefer pushing it directly to kindle instead of through Amazon. (Atleast one layer scrutiny is avoided). That said, this looks pretty clean. Ref 1: http://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/oct/22/amazon-wipes-cu... Ref 2: http://boingboing.net/2009/07/30/high-school-student-1.html

Doesn't matter. This site just sends it to Amazon to send to your kindle, it doesn't push it directly.

That's correct. It goes to your Amazon.com Kindle account. But we also let users download EPUB and MOBI versions directly without sending to Amazon servers. So that's also an option if you prefer to side load the files.

Re: FiveFilters: Send web articles to Kindle

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Post by k1m » Sun, May 15, 2016, 11:33 AM UTC

perseusprime11 wrote: post #7

ikeboy wrote: post #3

Why use this over http://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle ? There's a browser extension as well.

This one does not have ads. Five filters comes with ads. Big differentiator!

We do not add ads to the articles. Our project goal is to promote independent, non-corporate media, so on occasion we have added links to criticism of certain corporate media outlets at the end of articles coming from said media.

Re: FiveFilters: Send web articles to Kindle

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Post by ikeboy » Sun, May 15, 2016, 11:36 AM UTC

k1m wrote: post #14

ikeboy wrote: post #3

Why use this over http://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle ? There's a browser extension as well.

I'm the creator of the FiveFilters.org Push to Kindle service. The technical difference, as far as I'm aware, is that the Amazon version works by using Javascript on your browser to identify the content block and send it to your account. We make a separate request for the content from the server. The JS method works better in many cases (e.g. if the page you're viewing is not publicly accessible - paywall perhaps). T…

Did your sales drop off after Amazon released sendtokindle?

Re: FiveFilters: Send web articles to Kindle

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Post by k1m » Sun, May 15, 2016, 11:40 AM UTC

ikeboy wrote: post #17

k1m wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm the creator of the FiveFilters.org Push to Kindle service. The technical difference, as far as I'm aware, is that the Amazon version works by using Javascript on your browser to identify the content block and send it to your account. We make a separate request for the content from the server. The JS method works better in many cases (e.g. if the page you're viewing is not publicly accessible - paywall perhaps). T…

Did your sales drop off after Amazon released sendtokindle?

We only sell the Android app. Haven't noticed a huge difference there. I'm sure it would affect it if Amazon created an alternative. As for browser extension use, it's not something we actively track. But active user stats, reported by Chrome Web Store, have not been increasing much. Not sure if that's a direct result of Amazon's own extension, but could well be.

Re: FiveFilters: Send web articles to Kindle

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Post by k1m » Sun, May 15, 2016, 11:43 AM UTC

rajeefmk wrote: post #10

kentt wrote: post #8

I ran into this the other day. I couldn't justify paying $5 for the Android app.

Agree. The android app doesn't work as smooth as the web version. (Found out the hardway).

Sorry you had trouble with the Android app. Anything in particular that bugged you?

It's essentially a simpler interface to our web service. The same one used by the web app. So results should be the same from both. But you cannot see an article preview or edit the article's title as you can with our web app.

Oh, and thank you for submitting this here, btw. Was surprised to see it. :)

Re: FiveFilters: Send web articles to Kindle

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Post by lllllll » Sun, May 15, 2016, 1:01 PM UTC

I couldn't be happier with Kobo's Pocket integration. Kobo Glo HD is a wonderful device seamlessly syncing with you Pocket account. This feature is 40% why I bought Kobo(again).