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Trump-Sanders Signal an Oligarchy on the Brink of Collapse

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Re: Trump-Sanders Signal an Oligarchy on the Brink of Collapse

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Not sure if your question is rhetorical, I am assuming not. Bush & Bush junior.

Ah no, it wasn't rhetorical. Are you referring to the current election? I only see Jeb Bush in the list

Isn't he the son and brother of two former presidents?

There is a level of endogamy in american politics which is spectacular, even by european standards.

Re: Trump-Sanders Signal an Oligarchy on the Brink of Collapse

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1980-2000s: Reagan removes the Fairness Doctrine... TIL Rush Limbaugh will cause the end of the world. Hilarious.

> ...and stops enforcing antitrust laws; Economic elites argue we need to modernize finance by getting rid of Glass-Steagall; Tax rates on the wealthy plummet while infrastructure crumbles; The Supreme Court supports Citizens United and guts the Voting Rights Act; Gerrymandering increases.

In context.

Re: Trump-Sanders Signal an Oligarchy on the Brink of Collapse

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I think even within the oligarchy there are people who are not amused to see the wife of a former president competing with the son and brother of two other former presidents. You don't have to be out to dislike this system.

> competing with the son and brother of two other former presidents Sorry, who are those?

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Re: Trump-Sanders Signal an Oligarchy on the Brink of Collapse

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I find somewhat hilarious that the supposed harbingers of this "collapse" are staunch members of said "oligarchy" (an elitist billionaire and a career politician). Revolutions are not as they once were...

Of course they're coming from within the oligarchy. How is an "outsider" going to succeed, when you need massive campaign funding to even make an impression in the primaries? We might see a more diverse background in revolution leaders if people take it one step further and ignore the democratic process.

Obama was an "outsider". It's been a while since campaigns are not won by just money. My theory is the rich elites don't want to wield their power through governments anymore.

Re: Trump-Sanders Signal an Oligarchy on the Brink of Collapse

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I find somewhat hilarious that the supposed harbingers of this "collapse" are staunch members of said "oligarchy" (an elitist billionaire and a career politician). Revolutions are not as they once were...

> "hilarious that the supposed harbingers of this "collapse" are staunch members"

You must not be very well versed in history then. That's pretty much where it always comes from.

Re: Trump-Sanders Signal an Oligarchy on the Brink of Collapse

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah no, it wasn't rhetorical. Are you referring to the current election? I only see Jeb Bush in the list

Isn't he the son and brother of two former presidents? There is a level of endogamy in american politics which is spectacular, even by european standards.

Yes, but I read it as referring to 2 people, sorry

Re: Trump-Sanders Signal an Oligarchy on the Brink of Collapse

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post #15
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course they're coming from within the oligarchy. How is an "outsider" going to succeed, when you need massive campaign funding to even make an impression in the primaries? We might see a more diverse background in revolution leaders if people take it one step further and ignore the democratic process.

Obama was an "outsider". It's been a while since campaigns are not won by just money. My theory is the rich elites don't want to wield their power through governments anymore.

Obama raised more than any president in history from what I understand.

Re: Trump-Sanders Signal an Oligarchy on the Brink of Collapse

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post #2

I find somewhat hilarious that the supposed harbingers of this "collapse" are staunch members of said "oligarchy" (an elitist billionaire and a career politician). Revolutions are not as they once were...

Bernie is a career politician trying to do the right thing though.
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