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Re: WhatsApp is back online in Brazil

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I'm fairly certain Brazil didn't just wake up one day and decide to reactivate WhatsApp's service... So my first reaction to this news is what did Facebook/WhatsApp/Zuckerberg do, or possibly even give up, in order to change Brazil's mind.

Nothing, their judicial system functioned as it should, only a day too slow. A district judge in the middle of the country has no right to do stuff like that, and the appellate judge fixed the overstep. Now, step 2, disbar the original district judge.

Step 2 seldom happens. Judges have an extreme amount of power.

Re: WhatsApp is back online in Brazil

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is only one specific judge that has ordered the block both times it has occurred. Both times it has been overturned when appealed to other judges in Brazil. It's not "Brazil" that made this decision. It's one extremist judge.

I've heard of groups of people in the Southeast talk about how the mentality of the people in the Northeast is different, and that is how you get the extremist judge.

> I've heard of groups of people in the Southeast talk about how the mentality of the people in the Northeast is different

Being born in the capital and lived in the Northeast for 3 decades, I can attest that the mentality is indeed different.

For instance: the biggest A-holes usually come from the Southeast. See what I did there? I have many examples to back this up, but they prove nothing. Generalizations are harmful.

This is just a stupid judge overstepping his authority. If anything, that's judge mentality for you.

Instead of "hearing from groups of people", catch a plane and see for yourself. I bet some of your beliefs are going to change.

Caption for non Brazilians: there's this prejudice from people from the Southeast against people from the Northeast. Some of it is historical, as the Northeast suffered for centuries with severe drought (California's current situation is better than their best case, no mountains storing ice). So, people would migrate to the Southeast, in search of jobs. Usually poor, uneducated people.

Since then, the Northeast has developed and, while the drought is still a problem, most people are in cities now. Still, the stereotype persists, specially among the elitist in the South/Southeast.

Re: WhatsApp is back online in Brazil

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Out of curiosity, what did Brazil use before WhatsApp existed? It seems strange to me that 1 app can capture such an overwhelming majority, because it's just a client, of which there have always been dozens if not hundreds.

SMS. It was a big focus for a lot of telcos until recently.

WhatsApp usage seem to have gone hand in hand with increased availability of smartphones (Android, mostly).

I don't remember any other mobile messaging app that had widespread usage before that.

Re: WhatsApp is back online in Brazil

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I hope the govt sees the reliance on this service and does something positive about it (for example, build their own or tie up with some company). Such massive dependence on a company with no contracts is going to end up in a mess later.

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Out of curiosity, what did Brazil use before WhatsApp existed? It seems strange to me that 1 app can capture such an overwhelming majority, because it's just a client, of which there have always been dozens if not hundreds.

I'm not even sure. I remember giving Kik a go in the early days of smartphones, but all of a sudden everyone was using WhatsApp. My own social circle used to prefer Kik since it had features like Location sharing way before WhatsApp did.

It could be that WhatsApp was the first to get translated to Brazilian Portuguese, and since I've always used the English version I never noticed. Even if English is taught as a second language in all schools, most Brazilians can't read or write English, so this is a big deal.

Re: WhatsApp is back online in Brazil

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Out of curiosity, what did Brazil use before WhatsApp existed? It seems strange to me that 1 app can capture such an overwhelming majority, because it's just a client, of which there have always been dozens if not hundreds.

SMS. It is VERY expensive in Brazil
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