I hope this is an option on Model 3, too. I'd probably pay $2-5k premium for "really good air filter" if I lived in or frequently travelled through cities with bad air (I'd pay $10k for it in Beijing).
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#12Brilliant marketing:
1. get people worried about something they previously didn't care about;
2. as a solution, add a new part to the car that will need frequent replacement and maintenance, thereby increasing the CLV.
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#13What is the point of wasting precious resources and taxpapyer money on this ?
If you've ever wanted to travel in Indonesia/Singapore/China locations during the multi-month Haze/particulate issues, you would understand how this is a pretty invaluable technology.
I don't really have any lung issues (that I know of) - but if I forget to bring a mask, and walk for any distance, I start coughing and gagging after a while to clear my lungs.
It gets so bad, that at times people are not only told to stay indoors (where they hopefully have filtered air), but are in extreme cases, evacuated.
Can you imagine how wonderful having this mode of air-cleaning would be during those months if you had asthma (or young children?)
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#14What is the point of wasting precious resources and taxpapyer money on this ?
If you've ever wanted to travel in Indonesia/Singapore/China locations during the multi-month Haze/particulate issues, you would understand how this is a pretty invaluable technology. I don't really have any lung issues (that I know of) - but if I forget to bring a mask, and walk for any distance, I start coughing and gagging after a while to clear my lungs. It gets so bad, that at times people are not only told to s…
Is Tesla making cars for Indonesia, Singapore or China currently? Surely there are problem all over the planet but I don't see why American government must subsidize solving those problems.
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#15Running an ICE car in a garage will harm you (and kill you pretty quickly), running an electric car will heal you.
It sounds cheesy but it true.
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#16What is the point of wasting precious resources and taxpapyer money on this ?
> precious resources and taxpapyer money I guess you mean the cost to the environment to manufacture large HEPA filters and the government subsidies to Tesla. In my mind the environmental cost of adding the feature is trivial compared to adding a gimmick to get rich people who like gadgets to purchase electric cars so that we can: 1. Use the high-end of the market to fuel the production of cheaper electric cars on th…
If the Tesla is for rich people I find it immoral to provide subsidies to it under any pretext. Helping conventional cars be more environment friendly might help poor people more.
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#17What is the point of wasting precious resources and taxpapyer money on this ?
Maybe to pander to the Chinese market? They've been having trouble with cancelled orders in China. Definitely not a waste of money if it means that they can offload inventory...
I am referring to American taxpayers money. Poorest of poor in America is subsidizing these rich people gadgets at around $8k per unit. Why should we gift this money to China ?
If Chinese people want clean air let Chinese government fund it.
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#18Maybe it's just all the Prince nostalgia speaking, but ever since watching the classic 1989 version of Batman, I've wondered how long you'd really be safe inside of a car during a terrorist chemical weapon attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hn-CTSKmeo
Thankyou Tesla for delivering a car that the 1989 version of me would have been pretty keen on acquiring!
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#19> You can literally survive a military grade bio attack by sitting in your car. Unless you're being attacked with smog, this seems rather hyperbolic. I can't imagine that two minutes breathing, say, aerosolized tweaked Spanish influenza, would be 'safe'. Maybe if you were in the car with the system running before the attack, though?
Seriously. Advertising this without testing against pathogens is a joke. (And I'm as big a Tesla fan as there is, but that's an objective fact from a QA perspective.) But then again, testing against smog is something a group of engineers can do on their own. Testing against lethal and highly contagious airborn pathogens is hardly something you can just up and do in your ordinary automotive lab. Doubt they're prepared…
If you have a sensor that can detect things the size of bioweapon pathogens at concentrations where airborne pathogens would be dangerous, then yes, you absolutely can test for them. And, what do you know, some common bioweapon bacteria are around .5 um, and HEPA filters have to be able to filter out 99+% of objects .3 um to be rated as HEPA bu the US DOE. Add on that many bioweapons are actually not natively airborne and are distributed as aerosols with even larger droplet sizes, 1.5 um to 5 um, and a certified HEPA filter is absolutely capable of defending you from biological weapons. The technology to measure things that small and defend against them is readily available.
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#20What is the point of wasting precious resources and taxpapyer money on this ?
What? Can you expand on that please?
Elon Musk's rich people's gadgets are heavily subsidized by American government (read average Americans). American government is paying around $8k per car to Musk.
A lot of this money seems to be wasted to adding swag to this car that gets Musk some positive PR if nothing else. It is stupid to point out that this might help China or some other polluted country, why should Americans pay for it ?
Very likely China will ban Tesla and some Chinese company would make similar cars only if Musk could ever make this does-not-run-200miles car.