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How Android gets to 100% market share

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Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

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I moved from android to iphone to Windows phone to android to iphone. I'm sticking with iphone. Android has been the worst experience for me. Had an old HTC with 2.# and a Samsung note4, plagued with issues. The thing that annoyed me most (besides Samsung bugs like not being able to remove keyboard notification) is when you register with an email, you cannot use the same email for another service. My contacts exist o…

I'm having trouble understanding your issue with email addresses. What do you mean by "another service"? What do you mean by "register the phone with gmail"? What do you mean by "sign in with windows live"?

Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

#13

I moved from android to iphone to Windows phone to android to iphone. I'm sticking with iphone. Android has been the worst experience for me. Had an old HTC with 2.# and a Samsung note4, plagued with issues. The thing that annoyed me most (besides Samsung bugs like not being able to remove keyboard notification) is when you register with an email, you cannot use the same email for another service. My contacts exist o…

I'm having trouble understanding your issue with email addresses. What do you mean by "another service"? What do you mean by "register the phone with gmail"? What do you mean by "sign in with windows live"?

I've got no clue, I use the same email account for gmail, microsoft, samsung, facebook etc. I have lots of services with the same email setup.

Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

#14

I believe the fragmentation issue is going to take a lot longer to solve than the author leads on. Android is rooted in its open nature, and it's what caused the proliferation of the OS in the first place. It's going to take much longer for OEMs to stop shipping bloatware on the devices, or Google will effectively fork the OS simply because the OEMs can't keep up. Look how long it's taken Microsoft to get their OEMs…

Depends on the contract really... do we know what terms do the OEMs sign? If Google is free to change the terms on renewal, then they can simply state "must provide updates for X years, up to Y days after upstream, cannot change Z - or you can't call it Android". That would either cause an instant solution or instant full-OEM-forks.

Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

#15

I moved from android to iphone to Windows phone to android to iphone. I'm sticking with iphone. Android has been the worst experience for me. Had an old HTC with 2.# and a Samsung note4, plagued with issues. The thing that annoyed me most (besides Samsung bugs like not being able to remove keyboard notification) is when you register with an email, you cannot use the same email for another service. My contacts exist o…

I will never get an iPhone as it is a luxury on my part of the planet or when I eventually do get one, it will most likely be second hand.

The Windows Phone developer stack is great in regards to Android, but with all the missteps Microsoft did, the last being the failure to fulfill the promise of upgrading all WP 8.1 devices to WP 10, we really only have Android as viable alternative to iOS.

Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

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I haven't read the article, and I love my Android phone, but I sincerely hope Android never approaches 100%. Monoculture is never a good thing.

True, except that as a developer I'd prefer to target only one architecture. Now we're forced to write apps for iOS and Android and the web separately.

Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

#17

I believe the fragmentation issue is going to take a lot longer to solve than the author leads on. Android is rooted in its open nature, and it's what caused the proliferation of the OS in the first place. It's going to take much longer for OEMs to stop shipping bloatware on the devices, or Google will effectively fork the OS simply because the OEMs can't keep up. Look how long it's taken Microsoft to get their OEMs…

Fragmentation is an old beast.

Android is no better than what we had with Symbian, J2ME or proprietary mobile OSes that came before current crop of mobile OSes.

As long as OEM and networks have the last word on firmware, it will always exist´, in name of product differentiation.

Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

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Nuclear bomb on Apple campus? This isn't 1995 and Windows. If anything Android becomes even more fragmented both for commercial reasons and by government meddling requiring different things in different countries until the OS is split up. Saying you are "Android" requires Google's restrictive license and that grates on lots of manufacturers who would love to be out from under their thumb and control their business. Don't forget that Apple still makes almost 90% of the profit from building devices. That is Android's weakness. Even Google doesn't directly make much. You may love your phone but if building it doesn't make the suppliers money something has to give.

Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

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post #16

I haven't read the article, and I love my Android phone, but I sincerely hope Android never approaches 100%. Monoculture is never a good thing.

True, except that as a developer I'd prefer to target only one architecture. Now we're forced to write apps for iOS and Android and the web separately.

Interestingly, you consider "the web" a single target, and not "Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Edge, Opera, IE" on "Linux, Windows, MacOS, IOS, Android"

And we consider android a single target, and not "Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Sony..."

We don't need android hegemony for easier development. We need cross platform development tools.

Re: How Android gets to 100% market share

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post #16

I haven't read the article, and I love my Android phone, but I sincerely hope Android never approaches 100%. Monoculture is never a good thing.

True, except that as a developer I'd prefer to target only one architecture. Now we're forced to write apps for iOS and Android and the web separately.

I don't think that will ever change but toolkits that let you target more than one platform will continue to improve (like Qt).
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